Stillen Headers!!!
Originally posted by Xeinth
Wow, Im really impressed that you used to middle-result baseline and final runs for the 'stated' gains. You guys deserve bigtime props when we get 'independen't verification.
Final question I think, was what kind of dyno.
Thanks,
X
Wow, Im really impressed that you used to middle-result baseline and final runs for the 'stated' gains. You guys deserve bigtime props when we get 'independen't verification.
Final question I think, was what kind of dyno.
Thanks,
X
Yeah, nice job posting the middle baseline for comparison, that does deserve credit.
Originally posted by FairladyZ
The headers/cats thing gets me. Why wouldn't you just put headers, instead of headers/cats? That says to me that you have stillen headers and stillen cats.
The headers/cats thing gets me. Why wouldn't you just put headers, instead of headers/cats? That says to me that you have stillen headers and stillen cats.
You could follow up a short header with test pipes or highflow cats to have a similar effect. From what I read, the claim is these Stillen short headers are followed by stock cats. I wouldn't expect a short header that is followed by cats to produce the kind of power being discussed.
If you want to maximize power, you would want to go headers, no cats or highflow cats and exhaust. Some people have asserted that a loss of back pressure could occur but, I haven't seen that problem. Hope that helps.
FairladyZ -
Here is the answer to your pondering from a previous post (page 4 I beleive)....
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We are also developing Race Pipes for the 350Z / G35. So, the differentiation was more for internal use than anything. It helps us quickly know which chart we are looking at... header with stock cats or header with racepipes (or NO cats).
<<<<snip>>>>
Regarding A/F Levels associated with Headers:
With the Cats still on the vehicle, the change in A/F levels is so minor that it's not a relevant concern. Since the cats have NOT been removed and the vehicle is stock in every other form, the computer learns the minor changes and corrects itself to compensate- during normal driving patterns. At wide-open throttle, the ECU uses a pre-programmed Fuel Map. If customers have Flashed ECUs and concerns with regards to A/F mixtures, the ECU flash companies (IE: TechnoSquare) should be asked what the effects will be, as they performed the programming. We have no way of knowing or testing each ECU program or possibility.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
Here is the answer to your pondering from a previous post (page 4 I beleive)....
<<<<snip>>>>
We are also developing Race Pipes for the 350Z / G35. So, the differentiation was more for internal use than anything. It helps us quickly know which chart we are looking at... header with stock cats or header with racepipes (or NO cats).
<<<<snip>>>>
Regarding A/F Levels associated with Headers:
With the Cats still on the vehicle, the change in A/F levels is so minor that it's not a relevant concern. Since the cats have NOT been removed and the vehicle is stock in every other form, the computer learns the minor changes and corrects itself to compensate- during normal driving patterns. At wide-open throttle, the ECU uses a pre-programmed Fuel Map. If customers have Flashed ECUs and concerns with regards to A/F mixtures, the ECU flash companies (IE: TechnoSquare) should be asked what the effects will be, as they performed the programming. We have no way of knowing or testing each ECU program or possibility.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
G'evening Board -
Our 'conversational time' is running short this evening. I'll be away for the rest of the week and will address any relevant questions next week. Thanks very much for all of your inquiry.
Please have safe holidays (for those that have them) and watch out for silly driving. Speaking of ratios - please watch out for B/A Ratios (Blood Alcohol).
Stay 'Tuned'.
Our 'conversational time' is running short this evening. I'll be away for the rest of the week and will address any relevant questions next week. Thanks very much for all of your inquiry.
Please have safe holidays (for those that have them) and watch out for silly driving. Speaking of ratios - please watch out for B/A Ratios (Blood Alcohol).
Stay 'Tuned'.
Will these pass CARB and visual inspection since they are hidden out of view? Gotta think about that in Ca
Also, I was quoted no more than $200 to install these at a race shop in Lake Forest. They have experience with Zs and g35s
Sounding better all teh time

Also, I was quoted no more than $200 to install these at a race shop in Lake Forest. They have experience with Zs and g35s
Sounding better all teh time
Last edited by Sponge; Dec 30, 2003 at 03:42 PM.
ok - last few minutes...
Backpressure...HFM - you are correct. The car does seem to like backpressure. That's why our Catback is not a straight-through design - we lost hp with the early designs and scrapped them.
As the headers do not delete the cats, no additional emissions will result. Visually, you might be asked if 'those are aftermarket headers'. We have not subjected them to sniff test, however.
Good Night All!
Backpressure...HFM - you are correct. The car does seem to like backpressure. That's why our Catback is not a straight-through design - we lost hp with the early designs and scrapped them.
As the headers do not delete the cats, no additional emissions will result. Visually, you might be asked if 'those are aftermarket headers'. We have not subjected them to sniff test, however.
Good Night All!
Also, I was quoted no more than $200 to install these at a race shop in Lake Forest. They have experience with Zs and g35s
wow
200 dollars is a smokin deal for install... either his labor rate is WAY lower than normal places in O.C. or the shop is a bit slow right now. I know shops that would sublet installs to him for that price....
wow
200 dollars is a smokin deal for install... either his labor rate is WAY lower than normal places in O.C. or the shop is a bit slow right now. I know shops that would sublet installs to him for that price....
Last edited by jawbone; Dec 30, 2003 at 05:57 PM.
Originally posted by jawbone
I know shops that would sublet installs to him for that price....
I know shops that would sublet installs to him for that price....
Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
You can count me as one... My tech's hate doing header installs only because it's so time intensive.
You can count me as one... My tech's hate doing header installs only because it's so time intensive.
I am very impressed with the way 2FST4U has answered all of the questions here. Much props from me. I am definitely interested in these headers I will also be anxiously waiting for some independent dynos
2FST4U -- do the headers ship with a fully illustrated instructions booklet (e.g. Crawfords)? Would be useful for the DIY or a shop that does not usually cater to Nissan vehicles (e.g. shop down the street).
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Our first shippment of Stillen SS headers can be shipped out Friday the 2nd. They will be in stock in the next couple of hours for local pick up.
http://www.performancenissanparts.co...roducts_id=271
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I'm sorry to ask this because I don't know if it was mentioned and I am not reading 7 pages again, but what is the size of the primaries on the Stillen headers? How about the NISMOs and Crawfords? Thanks.
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STILLEN Headers and Hardware that come with the package...
STILLEN HEADERS IN STOCK READY TO SHIP $998 (Stainless Steel)
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Originally posted by Mike Wazowski
damn Jason, you're always on top of thing. Good Job!
damn Jason, you're always on top of thing. Good Job!
If you look at my desk, I have parts and parts and parts to add to our web site...
You name the manufacturer we get it... Working on updating the web site just no time... :-/


