UPDATE on the plastic PLENUM, plus I need opinions
I am thankful to LSD for him taking the time to fabricate a part for our community, but I better get my boots on, because the bullsh*t is getting thick in this thread.
LSD is running a business. He is not making these parts solely out of the kindness of his heart. He seeks a return. I don't see anyone saying, "Greddy, win, lose or draw on the outcome, I appreciate your hard work and attempt to bring a new product to the Z community."
All some people want are some pictures. I'm not one of those people, but I'm sure I'll be begging for pictures when he's closer to production on his FI plenum. I think plenty of people understand exactly what it takes to fabricate a part and run a business within this community, and part of it is dealing with community hassling and backlashes.
Dan
LSD is running a business. He is not making these parts solely out of the kindness of his heart. He seeks a return. I don't see anyone saying, "Greddy, win, lose or draw on the outcome, I appreciate your hard work and attempt to bring a new product to the Z community."
All some people want are some pictures. I'm not one of those people, but I'm sure I'll be begging for pictures when he's closer to production on his FI plenum. I think plenty of people understand exactly what it takes to fabricate a part and run a business within this community, and part of it is dealing with community hassling and backlashes.
Dan
I know that I'll be at the dyno day this Saturday with my camera and as long as it's ok with lsdunique, I'll post pics of the new Plenum as soon as I get home Saturday afternoon. 
-Chrismcagle
Is that cool, lsdunique?

-Chrismcagle
Is that cool, lsdunique?
Originally posted by 350zdanny
I am thankful to LSD for him taking the time to fabricate a part for our community, but I better get my boots on, because the bullsh*t is getting thick in this thread.
LSD is running a business. He is not making these parts solely out of the kindness of his heart. He seeks a return. I don't see anyone saying, "Greddy, win, lose or draw on the outcome, I appreciate your hard work and attempt to bring a new product to the Z community."
Dan
I am thankful to LSD for him taking the time to fabricate a part for our community, but I better get my boots on, because the bullsh*t is getting thick in this thread.
LSD is running a business. He is not making these parts solely out of the kindness of his heart. He seeks a return. I don't see anyone saying, "Greddy, win, lose or draw on the outcome, I appreciate your hard work and attempt to bring a new product to the Z community."
Dan
Just my 2 E^11 cents
Last edited by phile; Jan 27, 2004 at 05:57 PM.
Yea you're right, and I apologize to the people reading the thread, because I don't want it hijacked on my account. It's not ********, it's just pretty naive.
I just think that once someone like LSD, who has a good reputation for fabricating parts, lets the community know of a prospective part, then he should understand that he's going to have to deal with a certain measure of curiosity and prying.
I don't think it's fair of him to say that the community is ignorant of how hard it is to do things like this. I think that's a blanket statement and it's ********.
As far as the nameless corporation maybe you're right. But it's those guys that advance the industry as well. Real world commercial is over...
Dan
I just think that once someone like LSD, who has a good reputation for fabricating parts, lets the community know of a prospective part, then he should understand that he's going to have to deal with a certain measure of curiosity and prying.
I don't think it's fair of him to say that the community is ignorant of how hard it is to do things like this. I think that's a blanket statement and it's ********.
As far as the nameless corporation maybe you're right. But it's those guys that advance the industry as well. Real world commercial is over...
Dan
Originally posted by 350zdanny
Yea you're right, and I apologize to the people reading the thread, because I don't want it hijacked on my account. It's not ********, it's just pretty naive.
I just think that once someone like LSD, who has a good reputation for fabricating parts, lets the community know of a prospective part, then he should understand that he's going to have to deal with a certain measure of curiosity and prying.
I don't think it's fair of him to say that the community is ignorant of how hard it is to do things like this. I think that's a blanket statement and it's ********.
As far as the nameless corporation maybe you're right. But it's those guys that advance the industry as well. Real world commercial is over...
Dan
Yea you're right, and I apologize to the people reading the thread, because I don't want it hijacked on my account. It's not ********, it's just pretty naive.
I just think that once someone like LSD, who has a good reputation for fabricating parts, lets the community know of a prospective part, then he should understand that he's going to have to deal with a certain measure of curiosity and prying.
I don't think it's fair of him to say that the community is ignorant of how hard it is to do things like this. I think that's a blanket statement and it's ********.
As far as the nameless corporation maybe you're right. But it's those guys that advance the industry as well. Real world commercial is over...
Dan
Real world commercial is over...
Point taken. I'm just gonna say good luck to LSD on what I'm sure is going to be a superior product. I'm in line for the fully redesigned plenum when it comes out.
Your post is not a commercial in realism it is an announcement of pessimism.
All bark -
Besides the obvious stuff to look for, keep an ear out for the acoustics of the plastic plenum. I'm really wondering what kind of sound it will put out. Also, I know the stock plenum doesn't weight much, but shouldn't this be quite a bit lighter?
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Originally posted by 350zdanny
All bark -
Besides the obvious stuff to look for, keep an ear out for the acoustics of the plastic plenum. I'm really wondering what kind of sound it will put out. Also, I know the stock plenum doesn't weight much, but shouldn't this be quite a bit lighter?
Dan
All bark -
Besides the obvious stuff to look for, keep an ear out for the acoustics of the plastic plenum. I'm really wondering what kind of sound it will put out. Also, I know the stock plenum doesn't weight much, but shouldn't this be quite a bit lighter?
Dan
and thanks for the heads up. I will be listening for changes but I will also be adding lsd's high flow cats on friday so I might be prejudice on the sounds.
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As far as weight goes, I dont expect much weight savings on this piece if any. The stock piece doesnt have much to it, and our plastic piece has heavier fittings.
The all aluminum FI version has a large weight savings though, I believe it is 15lbs.
The all aluminum FI version has a large weight savings though, I believe it is 15lbs.
Is there going to be information on the release here or will it be posted in another brand new thread? Considering I don't get much of a chance to come on here, I hope it doesn't fall off the front 1 to 2 pages.....
Originally posted by D_Nyholm
Is there going to be information on the release here or will it be posted in another brand new thread? Considering I don't get much of a chance to come on here, I hope it doesn't fall off the front 1 to 2 pages.....
Is there going to be information on the release here or will it be posted in another brand new thread? Considering I don't get much of a chance to come on here, I hope it doesn't fall off the front 1 to 2 pages.....
Originally posted by go-g35
Don't forget to bring a camera!!!
Don't forget to bring a camera!!!
I'll not only post some pics of the new plenum, but if I can, I'll also get some sound clips for those interested.
I just hope that all_bark is there when I'm there!
-Chrismcagle
Chris,
Very interested in the sound of that plenum. I'm also getting the new crawford plenum from doug early next week and I'm going to post sound clips of that as well for everyone's comparison. I also have dyno time on Wednesday up in Hackensack, NJ if anyone would like to join me for a dyno of the plenum.
Dan
Very interested in the sound of that plenum. I'm also getting the new crawford plenum from doug early next week and I'm going to post sound clips of that as well for everyone's comparison. I also have dyno time on Wednesday up in Hackensack, NJ if anyone would like to join me for a dyno of the plenum.
Dan



