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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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Im about to pull the trigger on getting an Injen cai setup for my hr. I have short rams now, but they feel off and I don't like them. I'm not concerned about water. I'm not taking my Z mudding, plus I'm getting hydro shields for the filter so I think I am set. The only concern I have is a pebble breaking through the filter and getting sucked into the engine. I have searched around and have not seen anybody saying that has happened to them. Has anybody heard or have any experience with this happening?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:50 AM
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Im about to pull the trigger on getting an Injen cai setup for my hr. I have short rams now, but they feel off and I don't like them. I'm not concerned about water. I'm not taking my Z mudding, plus I'm getting hydro shields for the filter so I think I am set. The only concern I have is a pebble breaking through the filter and getting sucked into the engine. I have searched around and have not seen anybody saying that has happened to them. Has anybody heard or have any experience with this happening?
never heard of it
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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never heard of it
Cool. Thanks
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 10:54 AM
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Don't the filters have a wire mesh? How would a pebble break through?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Don't the filters have a wire mesh? How would a pebble break through?
Idk. Do they? I figured if a car in front of you kicks up a pebble, and the pebble happened to hit the filter, it would hit it at the speed that the car kicked it up plus how fast you are going. That pebble would probably be going pretty fast
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Idk. Do they? I figured if a car in front of you kicks up a pebble, and the pebble happened to hit the filter, it would hit it at the speed that the car kicked it up plus how fast you are going. That pebble would probably be going pretty fast
All the cone/cylinder filters I've used had a wire mesh over the filter/holding the shape of the pleats.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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All the cone/cylinder filters I've used had a wire mesh over the filter/holding the shape of the pleats.

I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
Alrighty thanks
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They feel "off".
What does this mean?
Off compared to what?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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^That's actually a good point. How do they feel off? What doesn't feel "right" about them? You're not going to feel a huge difference.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 01:27 PM
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Maybe just get a tune with the short rams?
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if you really want to take off the bumper to clean the filters then get them... but get a tune, intakes rarely do anything for you other than sound
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No way would it make it past the filter or all the way up the piping, don't worry about it OP

If you already have the short rams just keep them
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Originally Posted by JCITY
They feel "off".
What does this mean?
Off compared to what?
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^That's actually a good point. How do they feel off? What doesn't feel "right" about them? You're not going to feel a huge difference.
They feel off because:

The quality. They don't fit right. They bump up against the strut bar, and the crankcase breather hose is in an awkward spot, so the hose is bent. The clamps come loose over time, and it overall feels cheap.

It's inconsistent. Some days my Z is super responsive and feels great right from the start, but a lot of the time it seems like the power is in the very top end with none in the lower end. It feels sluggish. Another thing that weirds me out about that is sometimes in third gear, I'll gun it, and it almost stutters. It isn't always a constant acceleration in only third gear.

And I think they are holding me back. When I got the tune, I was short on the amount of power I made. Nobody could explain why it didn't make any power. I know it is just a number, but something isn't quite right. It can't really be too much besides the exhaust or intakes, and the intakes are questionable.

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if you really want to take off the bumper to clean the filters then get them... but get a tune, intakes rarely do anything for you other than sound
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No way would it make it past the filter or all the way up the piping, don't worry about it OP

If you already have the short rams just keep them
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Maybe just get a tune with the short rams?
I already have a tune from a reputable shop.

When they had it on the dyno, it made an odd resonating sound around 5-6k rpm. It wasn't something clanking around, you could hear it in the engine noise. The best way I could describe it is if you have ever heard two instruments play the same note, and one is flat, it's the "wavy," kind of sound that you get. The tuner had to change a lot of things to get it to make some kind of bare minimum acceptable power, and I think that if I get a more reputable brand of intake I could fix some of these issues.

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What were the numbers that made you think something is wrong ?
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 06:23 AM
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^ and what makes you so sure it's the intake?
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What were the numbers that made you think something is wrong ?
285 on a dynojet
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Originally Posted by Syner
^ and what makes you so sure it's the intake?
There is not much else it could be. The intakes are questionable
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Originally Posted by booozy
285 on a dynojet
What were you expecting?

Originally Posted by booozy
There is not much else it could be. The intakes are questionable
They're tubes with a filter stuck on the end, there isn't much that can go wrong...
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Originally Posted by booozy
285 on a dynojet
i hit 286 with my HR on mustang..... its just a number dude
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Originally Posted by travlee9374
i hit 286 with my HR on mustang..... its just a number dude

I was talking to an older engine builder a couple years ago and he always said track times were far more important than HP numbers.
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