I modified my AEM CAI into a "pop charger". Pics and How-to inside.. Got good results
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I modified my AEM CAI into a "pop charger". Pics and How-to inside.. Got good results
After much speculation about CAI and Short Ram types and my plenum being delivered this upcoming week I have thought it out and decided to go with the short ram style and after a couple of hours of testing in 85 degree weather I have already felt good results..
I firmly believe now that the long and curvy tube is detrimental to the air flow and also because of the lenght and the amount of heated tube the air has to pass thru before it hits the engine.. The warm air is really not a factor since when your car is moving the majority of the air is fresh anyway.. Also I didn't notice any loss of power while driving in stop and go traffic with the AC on because of the air temp.
My findings:
-2HP gain average out of 3 runs on my G-Timer 2 (previous best ever was 243HP on many runs, I managed a 245 after this mod). Take this however you want, alot of people don't respect G-timer numbers anyway..
-Better throttle response, I noticed with the CAI that the car would lag for a fracton of a second after hitting the gas, not too noticible until you compare Short vs Cold Air intake on your own car after driving it for 20k miles.
-Dead on motionless idle, with my CAI the idle was a tiny bit bumpy, not a big deal but a diffrence nonetheless..
-Low rpm power seems more responsive, I cannot tell much of a difference in the upper end but its deffinatly not losing power.
-Sound is better, with the CAI it sounded muffled from being stuffed into the tiny wheel well
Overall opinion for lack of a better term the car feels "healthier".
Here's how it was done. It requires some work but even after this is done it can still be used again as a CAI if you want to switch back since there is still plenty of tube to attach the filter too after the tube is cut.
AEM CAI as installed:
I firmly believe now that the long and curvy tube is detrimental to the air flow and also because of the lenght and the amount of heated tube the air has to pass thru before it hits the engine.. The warm air is really not a factor since when your car is moving the majority of the air is fresh anyway.. Also I didn't notice any loss of power while driving in stop and go traffic with the AC on because of the air temp.
My findings:
-2HP gain average out of 3 runs on my G-Timer 2 (previous best ever was 243HP on many runs, I managed a 245 after this mod). Take this however you want, alot of people don't respect G-timer numbers anyway..
-Better throttle response, I noticed with the CAI that the car would lag for a fracton of a second after hitting the gas, not too noticible until you compare Short vs Cold Air intake on your own car after driving it for 20k miles.
-Dead on motionless idle, with my CAI the idle was a tiny bit bumpy, not a big deal but a diffrence nonetheless..
-Low rpm power seems more responsive, I cannot tell much of a difference in the upper end but its deffinatly not losing power.
-Sound is better, with the CAI it sounded muffled from being stuffed into the tiny wheel well
Overall opinion for lack of a better term the car feels "healthier".
Here's how it was done. It requires some work but even after this is done it can still be used again as a CAI if you want to switch back since there is still plenty of tube to attach the filter too after the tube is cut.
AEM CAI as installed:
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You need to do something about shielding it from hot air from the engine. I had my INJEN that way and when I went to the dyno it just deteriorated run after run and I think it was because of the hot air, I reinstalled it down at the grill and went back to the dyno and the runs were consistent that time.
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Originally posted by westpak
You need to do something about shielding it from hot air from the engine. I had my INJEN that way and when I went to the dyno it just deteriorated run after run and I think it was because of the hot air, I reinstalled it down at the grill and went back to the dyno and the runs were consistent that time.
You need to do something about shielding it from hot air from the engine. I had my INJEN that way and when I went to the dyno it just deteriorated run after run and I think it was because of the hot air, I reinstalled it down at the grill and went back to the dyno and the runs were consistent that time.
After I get my Kinetix Plenum, heak soak will nearly be a none issue with the plastic plenum and the shorter intake tube that is now 1/2 plastic.. Also that filter is oversized compared to what was reccommended for the AEM, my next filter will even be larger now that I have more room.
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this worked pretty good for me
Originally posted by Daytona Blue Z in Bo
IMO the heat shield doesn't make much of a difference if any once your moving, even with it's in place its vaccuming in air from all over the engine and the only way that it would work is if it was sealed off.. Also as you can see in the next to last picture the filter sits infront of that hole where the air shoots in from the air damn getting fresh air, the pop charger sits alot closer to the OEM plastic peice thats closer to the engine..
After I get my Kinetix Plenum, heak soak will nearly be a none issue with the plastic plenum and the shorter intake tube that is now 1/2 plastic.. Also that filter is oversized compared to what was reccommended for the AEM, my next filter will even be larger now that I have more room.
IMO the heat shield doesn't make much of a difference if any once your moving, even with it's in place its vaccuming in air from all over the engine and the only way that it would work is if it was sealed off.. Also as you can see in the next to last picture the filter sits infront of that hole where the air shoots in from the air damn getting fresh air, the pop charger sits alot closer to the OEM plastic peice thats closer to the engine..
After I get my Kinetix Plenum, heak soak will nearly be a none issue with the plastic plenum and the shorter intake tube that is now 1/2 plastic.. Also that filter is oversized compared to what was reccommended for the AEM, my next filter will even be larger now that I have more room.
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Re: this worked pretty good for me
Originally posted by bigern1970
I did this worked pretty good........and by the way time to clean and oil that dirty filter
I did this worked pretty good........and by the way time to clean and oil that dirty filter
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how about a real modified injen cai into a hybrid injen/pop charger full cai....
this of course is when i put it in and the whole thing was disasembled.
this of course is when i put it in and the whole thing was disasembled.
05-01-2004, 09:53 PM
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for anyone who has a 3" K&N or other filter sitting around, I was at Autozone trying to find brake pads for my wifes car and I went to look at the filter section, there is a couple adapters you can buy (like the black welded piece on this tread) either metal or composite (aka-plastic). I did this mod, I like it
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I might buy the heat shield from JWT if it can be bought seperately. Anybody know of a site that you can order just the heat shield? I looked myself and only found the popcharger+shield..