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#21
On the other hand... look what I just found on k&n's website:
http://knfilters.com/faq.htm#7
7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle’s mass air sensor to fail?
No, it is both impossible and ridiculous.
It is impossible because we know that the oil treatment on our cotton is very small (usually less than 2 ounces). Once the oil is properly and evenly absorbed through the cotton, no oil will come off, even under extreme engine conditions. It is ridiculous, because no dealership or service provider has ever been able to provide us with evidence to support this “myth,” and in fact, our investigations have revealed that even authorized dealerships are simply speculating and do not have the test equipment necessary to know whether the sensor has failed or why. It is even more ridiculous because some car manufacturers use and sell air filters treated with oil on a regular basis. There are also major brands of disposable air filters that are treated with oil. We all use oil for the same reason, it helps in the filtration efficiency of an air filter. For more information on this topic including videos, see our Mass Air Flow Sensor Statement page.
Out of the millions of air filters we sell, we only receive a handful of consumer complaints each month that a dealership or service provider has blamed a vehicle sensor repair on our product. We take each complaint very seriously and see it as an opportunity to stop a consumer from being taken advantage of. We investigate the situation thoroughly and take full responsibility for resolving the issue. For more information on how we educate and persuade the service provider to reconsider their position, see Mass Air Flow Sensor Information & Testing. We are so confident in our ability to resolve these situations and help a consumer fight back that we offer our Consumer Protection Pledge.
As a result of our standing up for consumer rights and providing assistance to resolve a disagreement, we have had 77 actual sensors sent to us by dealerships who claimed our product had caused them to fail. Microscopic, electronic and chemical testing revealed that none of the 77 sensors were contaminated by K&N oil (K&N Detailed MAF Sensor Test Results). What is perhaps the single biggest clue to what is going on is that over 50% of these sensors were not broken in the first place for any reason. Click here for more information on how this may happen.
http://knfilters.com/faq.htm#7
7. Will a K&N filter cause my vehicle’s mass air sensor to fail?
No, it is both impossible and ridiculous.
It is impossible because we know that the oil treatment on our cotton is very small (usually less than 2 ounces). Once the oil is properly and evenly absorbed through the cotton, no oil will come off, even under extreme engine conditions. It is ridiculous, because no dealership or service provider has ever been able to provide us with evidence to support this “myth,” and in fact, our investigations have revealed that even authorized dealerships are simply speculating and do not have the test equipment necessary to know whether the sensor has failed or why. It is even more ridiculous because some car manufacturers use and sell air filters treated with oil on a regular basis. There are also major brands of disposable air filters that are treated with oil. We all use oil for the same reason, it helps in the filtration efficiency of an air filter. For more information on this topic including videos, see our Mass Air Flow Sensor Statement page.
Out of the millions of air filters we sell, we only receive a handful of consumer complaints each month that a dealership or service provider has blamed a vehicle sensor repair on our product. We take each complaint very seriously and see it as an opportunity to stop a consumer from being taken advantage of. We investigate the situation thoroughly and take full responsibility for resolving the issue. For more information on how we educate and persuade the service provider to reconsider their position, see Mass Air Flow Sensor Information & Testing. We are so confident in our ability to resolve these situations and help a consumer fight back that we offer our Consumer Protection Pledge.
As a result of our standing up for consumer rights and providing assistance to resolve a disagreement, we have had 77 actual sensors sent to us by dealerships who claimed our product had caused them to fail. Microscopic, electronic and chemical testing revealed that none of the 77 sensors were contaminated by K&N oil (K&N Detailed MAF Sensor Test Results). What is perhaps the single biggest clue to what is going on is that over 50% of these sensors were not broken in the first place for any reason. Click here for more information on how this may happen.
#22
Kinda interesting that dealerships would even send K&N those sensors, then that they tested the sensors for K&N oil on it. Thats cool.
Good luck with your car. Hopefully it works out alright!
Good luck with your car. Hopefully it works out alright!
#23
Originally Posted by RedBullRR
Sounds like you ran out of gas and your not reading the correct fuel.
I took a look and only 240 normal miles since my last fill up. Gas gauge is reading 3/8 full when I put the key in... If I ran out of gas, there would usually be some studdering before it cut out (from my experience), also I'd think that I'd get the engine to turn over a little bit at least with the little bit of extra fuel that collects.
The strange thing about it was that the car was running 100% up to the 2 seconds that it sputtered out and died.. It seems way to sudden for just running out of gas.. but then again I really don't kow and I can't say until I get it into the dealer today... if the tow truck will ever get here....
Thanks for the ideas...
#24
UPDATE:
I dropped the car off Saturday night and the dealership called me Monday morning and said they needed my other sets of keys because apparently the code had been erased in the key I had given them. Well I dropped off the other keys, knowing that it was the case for all the keys, since I had tried them all out with no ignition. Dealership calls me later yesterday evening and said that they found the problem. The ECM had completely quit and that is why it was not taking any codes for the keys. Apparently the computer just fried spontaneously, and that is what caused the car to shut off like that.
My service advisor tells me that they are going to overnight a new ECM and install it today. I explain to her what happened with the car dying like that and how life-threatening it was. She said that all she can do is apologize for what happened... I'm wondering if anyone thinks I can get anything out of this situation from Nissan? I'm definately going to voice my concerns and discontentment with the car and the whole situation. I mean, I could have died from this, and aside from that it was a huge amount of hassle having to tow the car up there and what not.
While the car was there, I thought to ask them to check my differential. When I take off from a stop quicker than normal, I get a click-click-click from the back of the car. So they are going to look at that while it is there today. I haven't heard anything more aside from that.
I dropped the car off Saturday night and the dealership called me Monday morning and said they needed my other sets of keys because apparently the code had been erased in the key I had given them. Well I dropped off the other keys, knowing that it was the case for all the keys, since I had tried them all out with no ignition. Dealership calls me later yesterday evening and said that they found the problem. The ECM had completely quit and that is why it was not taking any codes for the keys. Apparently the computer just fried spontaneously, and that is what caused the car to shut off like that.
My service advisor tells me that they are going to overnight a new ECM and install it today. I explain to her what happened with the car dying like that and how life-threatening it was. She said that all she can do is apologize for what happened... I'm wondering if anyone thinks I can get anything out of this situation from Nissan? I'm definately going to voice my concerns and discontentment with the car and the whole situation. I mean, I could have died from this, and aside from that it was a huge amount of hassle having to tow the car up there and what not.
While the car was there, I thought to ask them to check my differential. When I take off from a stop quicker than normal, I get a click-click-click from the back of the car. So they are going to look at that while it is there today. I haven't heard anything more aside from that.
#25
With this new information, how should I proceed with this situation? I would like to get whatever I can from Nissan, so they can keep me as a customer. I'm not sure how car dealerships will treat a situation like mine, and want to get the most out of this bad situation... PLEASE give me your input on what I should do and what I should expect!!!
Thanks.
Thanks.
#27
The car was supposed to be finished this afternoon, however my service advisor called me and told me that when they tried to program the new ECM, it won't take it or something along those lines... They offered me a courtesy car... green Ford Taurus... I passed... I already have a green Ford Taurus as my beater...
Wonder what the problem is now...
Wonder what the problem is now...
#28
Originally Posted by MyCarIsMyFriend
... They offered me a courtesy car... green Ford Taurus... I passed... I already have a green Ford Taurus as my beater...
#29
ECM got fried? yikes dude..thats pretty scary to think that it can happen to our cars. Glad to hear nobody got hurt.
so seriously...did you get hit by lighting the day before or what? lol.
so seriously...did you get hit by lighting the day before or what? lol.
#30
Originally Posted by MyCarIsMyFriend
The car was supposed to be finished this afternoon, however my service advisor called me and told me that when they tried to program the new ECM, it won't take it or something along those lines...
Wonder what the problem is now...
Wonder what the problem is now...
#32
Well they couldn’t get the new ECM to work so now they think it’s a communication problem so they are replacing the whole wiring harness. They said the harness won’t be in for a few days and it will take a day to put in. So I picked up a loaner car from them today, Nissan Versa, yuck… Oh well..
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