road noise withOUT feathering
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road noise withOUT feathering
I was one of the early preorders in 2003 (Sept) and when I first took my car in after about 5000 miles for the tire feathering issue, they simply swapped the tires and realigned (on a machine that was recalibrated the day before incidentally).
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
RaymanZ
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
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Re: road noise withOUT feathering
Originally posted by raymanZ
I was one of the early preorders in 2003 (Sept) and when I first took my car in after about 5000 miles for the tire feathering issue, they simply swapped the tires and realigned (on a machine that was recalibrated the day before incidentally).
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
RaymanZ
I was one of the early preorders in 2003 (Sept) and when I first took my car in after about 5000 miles for the tire feathering issue, they simply swapped the tires and realigned (on a machine that was recalibrated the day before incidentally).
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
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Rayman: I have experienced the same as you. No fethering but increased tire noise at 8,700 miles especially around 20 to 30 mph. It is getting worse. Really loud.
Thanks for your observations.
Tom
Thanks for your observations.
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Very true points here.
I had my tires replaced by Nissan after they were badly feathered. The dealer that did the work screwed up the alignment as the steering wheel was cocked and the car pulled to the right. I took it to another dealer that just opened and had their alignment machine calibrated and the alignment is perfect.
About 10,000 miles later, my tires look great (no uneven wear or hi-low tread blocks) so the proper alignment seems to have solved my feathering problems!!!
The tires are still quite loud at low speed though. I agree that the OEM RE040 tires suck, but I will wait till they wear out and try some Pilot Sports.
Silverstone Performance
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I had my tires replaced by Nissan after they were badly feathered. The dealer that did the work screwed up the alignment as the steering wheel was cocked and the car pulled to the right. I took it to another dealer that just opened and had their alignment machine calibrated and the alignment is perfect.
About 10,000 miles later, my tires look great (no uneven wear or hi-low tread blocks) so the proper alignment seems to have solved my feathering problems!!!
The tires are still quite loud at low speed though. I agree that the OEM RE040 tires suck, but I will wait till they wear out and try some Pilot Sports.
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I also get a lot of road noise at low speeds when braking , but I have no visible feathering on my tires. I'm at 9500 miles right now, and the noise almost sounds like my I need new brake pads. The stock brake pads should last longer than 9500 miles right, or am I totally wrong here?
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Take a look at the tire reviews at www.tirerack.com. Many Mazda and Lexus owners who also have this tire as standard equipment complained about excessive tire noise starting around 5000 miles of use.
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Re: road noise withOUT feathering
Originally posted by raymanZ
I was one of the early preorders in 2003 (Sept) and when I first took my car in after about 5000 miles for the tire feathering issue, they simply swapped the tires and realigned (on a machine that was recalibrated the day before incidentally).
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
RaymanZ
I was one of the early preorders in 2003 (Sept) and when I first took my car in after about 5000 miles for the tire feathering issue, they simply swapped the tires and realigned (on a machine that was recalibrated the day before incidentally).
This solved the problem briefly but then the noise came back about 1,000 miles later. Now, today, I have 19,000 miles on my front OEM tires (RE040) and the tires have been loud has hell between 20-30 MPH for the last 15,000 miles or 10 months.
Here is what I don't hear anyone discussing though: I have absolutely no apparent tire feathering! Now I have seen the pics of people posting their cars with the feathering problem, and it looks terrible and I feel bad for those that have it. My point, however, is that many people who are now starting to experience road noise automatically assume its a feathering problem. If you go to Tire Rack and look up the RE040s, you'll see many people complaining about excessive road noise from these tires, especially after a few thousand miles on them and on several models of cars.
For now, I still have a decent amount of tread on the fronts, so I''m going to live with the noise until I buy a new pair of tires. For the last 10 months though, I have been closely monitoring them for feathering and have fortuntely experienced nothing like the feathering that some people have posted.
So with these crappy OEM tires, don't presume road noise = tire feathering.
Just a final thought, my dealership told me that most alignment machines out there aren't recalibrated often enough. If this really is an over-sensitive toe issue as Nissan states, then perhaps it would be worthwhile to check if your dealer's machine has recently been calibrated. Albeit, nothing I have read from others on this board seems to lend any credence to Nissan's assessment of the situation.
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i've also become paranoid of tire feathering because of this forum lol=) but i switched tires before they could feather only because i bought some 19" volks with kumho tires. Anyways..what i did notice prior to the tire before and after is that different roads created different sounds lol. As if the tires were sensitive to the road itself. Right now i can hear the tires AND it's not that annoying but sometimes it's quiet on certain roads...i'm beginning to think you can add the "roads" as a variable.=)
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looks like a lot of ppl are complaing about these tires being noisy. I'm just a little over 6K and the noise is really starting to creep up on me.
http://www.tirerack.com./tires/tires...=Potenza+RE040
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looks like a lot of ppl are complaing about these tires being noisy. I'm just a little over 6K and the noise is really starting to creep up on me.
http://www.tirerack.com./tires/tires...=Potenza+RE040
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