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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Drove towards a stoplight on my way home from work. At first there was no resistance on the clutch until about half way in, then after taking it out of gear there was no resistance the whole way down. I read somewhere on here that it may be related to the clutch cylinder. Its sitting at a nissan dealership right now, which i am going to go by in the morning. Any one have any other ideas what it might be? And how much replacing clutch cylinders may run?


oh yeah, I stalled out for the first time in forever today. thought I was in reverse, but I was in 6th... Dont know if that would cause anything.

Vehicle has 42000 miles on it currently.

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 06:17 PM
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Well you might want to take a look at this thread (there, saved you from having to use the "search" function) -

https://my350z.com/forum/vq35hr/3281...-cylinder.html
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 06:41 PM
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Yeah I saw that thread as well, by searching. But I figured it only applied to 2007 350z as it states in the desc, unfortunately I dont have my vehicle at my home so I cannot check the vin.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Master and a slave cylinder are common 350Z problems.

Figure 1.5 hours at $80/hour plus parts.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 05:59 AM
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Brought it into a nissan dealership. They say the master and slave cylinders are done. Parts are about $260, which is fine, but the quote for labor is 10 hours because they have to pull the transmission... Is this common for replacing these parts on a Z?

I had zero problems with my clutch until yesterday.

Do they really need to pull the transmission to get to the slave cylinder?

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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Any ideas on this? I saw another thread that said you do have to pull the tansmission, and a different one that said you didnt. Both were referencing 07-08 models.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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You can download a 2007 Service Manual for free from several locations on the web. To save you the time now - yes you have to pull the transmission. See attached for location of the Concentric Slave Cylinder (CSC) (Nissa terminology for the slave cylinder). As you can see the CSC is inside the transmission housing.

08 350z clutch has zero resistance-csc-diagram.jpg
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Thanks for the diagram, I was able to find a photo of the inside of a transmission where the slave resides on Z1. Yeah that's unfortunate that it has to be pulled.. $$

I had never had to have transmission work done on a vehicle. Is an estimate of 10 hours to pull and fix this a legitimate time frame?
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:31 PM
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10 hours is a complete rip off. Should be no more than 5-6 hours tops for labor on the slave and master.

Your slave is internal (concentric) and requires the trans to be pulled, All 07-up 350's have a concentric internal slave cylinder.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 05:32 AM
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dholmblad - if you are going to have your CSC replaced I would highly recommend that you consider getting an upgraded unit from ZSpeed. See link below.

http://www.zspeedperformance.com/ZSp...?productId=126
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turbo, thanks for all the information for this issue. Yeah I found that part on zspeed from another thread where an owner was having a similar issue.

Another nissan dealership closer to my work in Tysons Corner Virginia said over the phone about 6 hrs of labor would be needed for this fix. I wish my vehicle was towed there to begin with.

Why is the slave not covered under powertrain warrenty as it is inside of the transmission?


Below is an excerpt from Nissan documentation that shows the coverage for transmission covered under the powertrain warrenty.


TRANSMISSION AND TRANSAXLE
Case and all internal parts, torque converter and converter
housing, automatic transmission control module, transfer
case and all internal parts, seals and gaskets, clutch cover
and housing, and electronic transmission controls.

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My experience is that the clutch and slave cylinder are considered "normal wear" items and are not covered on power train warranties or extended warranties.
Sucks, especially since you have to pull the trans. on the 07-08 Zs to change the slave cylinder. Pretty crappy design from the standpoint of maintenance.

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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Well I am going to try and swing it as a warrenty item, well see how this goes. thanks for the info bob
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dealer said its up to national nissan to make the call. So well see how this case goes.
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Good Luck!! My car is an 07 and too far out of the basic warranty period for them to consider this. Only have 30,000 miles and clutch is fine for now.
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After calling a number of dealers, the only thing that should fall under "normal wear and tear" is clutch, flywheel, pads, tires, etc. As the CSC is not a clutch or a flywheel, and is enclosed as a part of the transmission. I would assume this is covered. But well see how this goes on monday when Nissan cooperate calls me back.
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Originally Posted by dholmblad
Brought it into a nissan dealership. They say the master and slave cylinders are done. Parts are about $260, which is fine, but the quote for labor is 10 hours because they have to pull the transmission... Is this common for replacing these parts on a Z?

I had zero problems with my clutch until yesterday.

Do they really need to pull the transmission to get to the slave cylinder?
Oh boy did I underestimate this. Obviously the mechanic wants to inspect the clutch. I will not second guess the mechanic.
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Old Dec 10, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Oh boy did I underestimate this. Obviously the mechanic wants to inspect the clutch. I will not second guess the mechanic.

not sure what you mean by this?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Is it bad for a vehicles suspension to have it on a lift for a long period of time? For example more than 2 days?
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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No shouldn't hurt it at all. In fact for long term storage it is recommended that you put the car on jack stands so as to not flat spot the tires.
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