View Poll Results: How badly does your shifter rattle under normal to high-load operation?
As expected, as per many, many reviews prior to release.



81
63.78%
It's rattling quite a bit, but I'm not worried.



22
17.32%
PLEASE! Make it stop! This is embarrassing!



24
18.90%
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Shifter Rattle - YOU rate it.
Originally posted by JDZ
I choose option 4) Rattle, what rattle?
I choose option 4) Rattle, what rattle?
Fly
Originally posted by Z33
Shifter got vibe, no rattle. After 15 years of cable shifter (mid-engine, rear transaxle), the Z shifter is a real treat, direct, positive and connected. A bit of vibe never hurt anybody.
Z33
Shifter got vibe, no rattle. After 15 years of cable shifter (mid-engine, rear transaxle), the Z shifter is a real treat, direct, positive and connected. A bit of vibe never hurt anybody.
Z33
A mechanical linkage is dfferent and slower/harder to shift than cable linkages. If the Z's linkage is mechanical(it should be to handle the engine's torque), patience is needed with the breakin process, yeah, you break it in too. If you are trying to speedshift the transmission like a cable linkage from the first, problems could occur. By the way, Ferrari linkages often CLUNK when you shift to another gear, at least they do on the front-engine models I've read about in reputable car mags.
A vibration is common, a little rattle not unheard of, but a big rattle is cause for dealer attention.
Boomer--just a WAG.
Last edited by Boomer; Jan 5, 2003 at 08:07 PM.
Originally posted by bhobson333
I haven't heard any rattle at all from my shifter at 1400 miles. I think I have detected a pattern in the posts here, though. Those that are driving the Z the way it's SUPPOSED to be driven (F*ck the bogus breakin recommendation in the owner's manual
) aren't getting any rattle. Those that are keeping it below 4000 RPM are getting rattle. Maybe the rattle is only evident at a certain RPM and we are passing through that RPM so fast it never gets a chance to rattle!
I haven't heard any rattle at all from my shifter at 1400 miles. I think I have detected a pattern in the posts here, though. Those that are driving the Z the way it's SUPPOSED to be driven (F*ck the bogus breakin recommendation in the owner's manual
Anyone in Dallas wants to listen to my shifter RATTLE like a chainsaw, let me know. I'm sick of you people telling me I've got a little vibration in my shifter. I don't leave my hand ON THE SHIFTER, so if it was only vibrating, I wouldn't notice!!!
And furthermore, I DON'T BABY IT!!! You Track owners need to get off your high-horse like you're the only one's that drive aggressively.
And furthermore, I DON'T BABY IT!!! You Track owners need to get off your high-horse like you're the only one's that drive aggressively.
Last edited by tbcz; Jan 8, 2003 at 02:49 AM.
Originally posted by McDan
Where is the poll answer for "Stop whining like a little ***** about the shifter vibrations, it's a damn sports car with directly coupled linkage, not a f@cking Civic!"?
Where is the poll answer for "Stop whining like a little ***** about the shifter vibrations, it's a damn sports car with directly coupled linkage, not a f@cking Civic!"?
Droid is asking about a rattle, not a vibration - I think, unlike you, he knows the difference. Read the post.
Now go change your panty shields. This outburst of yours got you all squishy and unfresh.
Originally posted by wxtornado
Oh dear, look at this sub-personality. You take another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! You must be black and blue, poor thing.
Droid is asking about a rattle, not a vibration - I think, unlike you, he knows the difference. Read the post.
Now go change your panty shields. This outburst of yours got you all squishy and unfresh.
Oh dear, look at this sub-personality. You take another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! You must be black and blue, poor thing.
Droid is asking about a rattle, not a vibration - I think, unlike you, he knows the difference. Read the post.
Now go change your panty shields. This outburst of yours got you all squishy and unfresh.
Lol, I just realized I never addressed your concern, droid.
I don't hear anything from my shifter at all. Everyone's will most likely vibrate, but I'd definitely get a rattle-sound checked out. If you were to guess, would you say it's actually something in your transmission, or a piece somewhere else in the car picking up the vibration?
I don't hear anything from my shifter at all. Everyone's will most likely vibrate, but I'd definitely get a rattle-sound checked out. If you were to guess, would you say it's actually something in your transmission, or a piece somewhere else in the car picking up the vibration?
Originally posted by wxtornado
Lol, I just realized I never addressed your concern, droid.
I don't hear anything from my shifter at all. Everyone's will most likely vibrate, but I'd definitely get a rattle-sound checked out. If you were to guess, would you say it's actually something in your transmission, or a piece somewhere else in the car picking up the vibration?
Lol, I just realized I never addressed your concern, droid.
I don't hear anything from my shifter at all. Everyone's will most likely vibrate, but I'd definitely get a rattle-sound checked out. If you were to guess, would you say it's actually something in your transmission, or a piece somewhere else in the car picking up the vibration?
It's not even an issue anymore (I live with it), but I got so bent out of shape by A. the accusations that I don't have a rattle; or B. that I drive like a granny.
Originally posted by droidekaus
Are you shitting me?!? Mine rattles way over 4K RPM. I guess 100 in 5th with a 5K rev match to 4th isn't driving it like it should be driven. What the f*ck ever.
Are you shitting me?!? Mine rattles way over 4K RPM. I guess 100 in 5th with a 5K rev match to 4th isn't driving it like it should be driven. What the f*ck ever.
Originally posted by bhobson333
Sorry, I didn't mean to **** you off. I guess if I had that obnoxious rattle in my car, I'd be on edge, too. Take the thing to the dealer!
Sorry, I didn't mean to **** you off. I guess if I had that obnoxious rattle in my car, I'd be on edge, too. Take the thing to the dealer!
damn droid i thought you were a little **** when you started comlaining about the feathering issues but after you posted a pick i was in shock theres obviously something wrong there man as for the shifter i get no rattle at all even a 5 or 6 k no rattle i just have that little vibration on my shifter if you say it rattles i belive youand if i was you id be pissed myself man you must of got a lemon car or something i dont know what other probs you got but i wuld go to the dealer asap that rattle is not normal
Originally posted by droidekaus
I'm sorry for being a dick about it. It's just annoying to be told I don't drive it like I should. Believe me, I do.
I'm sorry for being a dick about it. It's just annoying to be told I don't drive it like I should. Believe me, I do.
Originally posted by droidekaus
You Track owners need to get off your f*cking high-horse like you're the only one's that drive aggressively.
You Track owners need to get off your f*cking high-horse like you're the only one's that drive aggressively.
I'm sorry, I find your statement strangely amusing but at the same time disturbing. What you are suggesting is that not only do the Honda S2k owners and Mustang owners seek to distinguish themselves from Z owners, but that "Track Z" owners are now some kind of sub-culture within the Z community.
I'm sure you feel this way otherwise you wouldn't have said it. And I'm not trying to diminish the way you felt at the time you said it either. But, why is it such a part of human nature for people to see others as belonging to a specific group or clan? Why do so many people seek to belong to smaller and smaller groups?
If taken to an extreme, you end up with a group of one. These people are called "loaners". So you see, even loaners are branded as a group. I don't study philosophy or anything, but, I've always been curious about the "gang" mentality. Being that I grew up in England, I got to see this behavior at Soccer matches. Of course, then there were gangs driven by musical cultures, like the Rockers against the Mods and the Mods against the Skin Heads and the Skin Heads against the Teddy Boys. My whole teenage years were dominated by dodging gangs of people who didn't like the way I looked or the way I dressed.
I think Yoda said it best:
"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to Suffering."
Perhaps Brian was a little hasty in assuming your experiences were the product of the inherent design and function of a short-shifter. I certainly was thinking along the same lines. However, I think you've made a good argument that you have an extreme case of the rattles. But certainly us "Track" guys can't be all that bad.
Fly
Last edited by Flyingscot; Jan 7, 2003 at 06:20 PM.
Originally posted by Flyingscot
... But, why is it such a part of human nature for people to see others as belonging to a specific group or clan? Why do so many people seek to belong to smaller and smaller groups?
I think Yoda said it best:
"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to Suffering."
... But, why is it such a part of human nature for people to see others as belonging to a specific group or clan? Why do so many people seek to belong to smaller and smaller groups?
I think Yoda said it best:
"Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to Suffering."
That's why I like this board. Philosophy mixed in with controversy.
And he doesn't even use Zaino!
Last edited by bhobson333; Jan 7, 2003 at 06:39 PM.
Originally posted by Flyingscot
Are we really this bad?
I'm sorry, I find your statement strangely amusing but at the same time disturbing. What you are suggesting is that not only do the Honda S2k owners and Mustang owners seek to distinguish themselves from Z owners, but that "Track Z" owners are now some kind of sub-culture within the Z community.
I'm sure you feel this way otherwise you wouldn't have said it. And I'm not trying to diminish the way you felt at the time you said it either. But, why is it such a part of human nature for people to see others as belonging to a specific group or clan? Why do so many people seek to belong to smaller and smaller groups?
If taken to an extreme, you end up with a group of one. These people are called "loaners".
Fly
Are we really this bad?
I'm sorry, I find your statement strangely amusing but at the same time disturbing. What you are suggesting is that not only do the Honda S2k owners and Mustang owners seek to distinguish themselves from Z owners, but that "Track Z" owners are now some kind of sub-culture within the Z community.
I'm sure you feel this way otherwise you wouldn't have said it. And I'm not trying to diminish the way you felt at the time you said it either. But, why is it such a part of human nature for people to see others as belonging to a specific group or clan? Why do so many people seek to belong to smaller and smaller groups?
If taken to an extreme, you end up with a group of one. These people are called "loaners".
Fly

That statement was made out of extreme anger after hearing for the 18th million time that if you don't own a Track, you don't really drive the car. Unfortuntely, bhobson took the brunt of my attack which I have already apologized for.
Here, on other boards and out in the real world, there is a tendency towards an underlying sentiment that Track owners are the chosen few, the only individuals who can push the Z to it's fullest potential.
Rubbish.
Originally posted by wxtornado
Oh dear, look at this sub-personality. You take another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! You must be black and blue, poor thing.
Droid is asking about a rattle, not a vibration - I think, unlike you, he knows the difference. Read the post.
Now go change your panty shields. This outburst of yours got you all squishy and unfresh.
Oh dear, look at this sub-personality. You take another swan dive off the high board of incomprehension - and no water in the pool! You must be black and blue, poor thing.
Droid is asking about a rattle, not a vibration - I think, unlike you, he knows the difference. Read the post.
Now go change your panty shields. This outburst of yours got you all squishy and unfresh.
Dan
Originally posted by droidekaus
Do you mean "loners"?
....Track owners are the chosen few, the only individuals who can push the Z to it's fullest potential.
Rubbish.
Do you mean "loners"?

....Track owners are the chosen few, the only individuals who can push the Z to it's fullest potential.
Rubbish.
BTW , I thought only the English used the word "Rubbish" to mean "crap". There is more to you than meets the eye.
Keep up the good work!
And for God sake, get that bloody car fixed before we go starting another thread :-)
Fly
Last edited by Flyingscot; Jan 8, 2003 at 06:58 PM.
I will go on the record as having this exact same problem. At 5k miles, the shifter has picked up an audible rattle when under load at certain RPMs. The problem is most evident in 2nd gear. For some reason, first and third don't cause an audible rattle, although the typical vibration is still evident.
The rattle seems to be coming from the shift handle as you can mute it by placing your hand on the ****, but it may actually be tapping something farther down and the sound is just transferred up the shifter. At first I thought the cap at the top was loose, but everything appears to be attached firmly.
The rattle seems to be coming from the shift handle as you can mute it by placing your hand on the ****, but it may actually be tapping something farther down and the sound is just transferred up the shifter. At first I thought the cap at the top was loose, but everything appears to be attached firmly.

