I don't like the colors or the kit, but I ain't calling it rice either. I congratulate the owner for doing something different (and seems expensive) and being more unique amongst this forums flock of sheep.

 

hahahahah anymore horrendous Z's on the website wana come out and play ??? VS Body kits for everyoneee !!!!!



Sorry, but as an owner and enthusiest I cannot condone these types of kits and paint jobs. It hurts to look at. .

 

actually, yes that front is quite ugly and the sides are overplaying concept of fender contours; just an opinion as an automobile design student of 3 years going. The front bumper side vents bare no relevance to the overall styling concept of the bent. GT and the front lower valence portion also shares no clean characteristics relating to the bent. GT's style; in other words, the result of kits that do NOT achieve the core design concept of a car, end up looking out of wack; while kit's described as CLEAN are often kits that elegantly and tastefully follow the overall style of the original car. This is the same reason that kits like the Nismo look so "clean" on 350Z's, they obviously following the original body styling of the rest of the car. Other good examples are like Shadow Sports Design, or Vertex and ing's. The 350Z core design concept is about line SUTTLETY and the relationship of broad surfaces playing against definite folded lines. The Veilside kits...ALL of them are about compound-curve organic elegance and intersecting fillets; which has NOTHING to do with the Nissan styling...thus many folks see it as too busy and "ricey"--although I use that word tastelessly; note, the V1 kit works decently well because it is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller in over size and visual mass that we are able to tolerate it and find it's suttlety in presence to be relative to the suttlety concept of the car design. I may be implimenting a bit more formal design bias than would the common consumer; but a designers job is to interpret what users see, but are not able to explain. There is a REASON why things look GOOD and why somethings look BAD, and the reasons can be analyzed as I have done so; the designer has a controlled purpose when they make a car the way it looks and does, it is not random expression like what most would call "art".

 

if that's art, I'm going to go kill myself.

 

money does not equal taste. /thread.

 

IMO it would look better all verde..

 

nice job

 

Do you actually believe this crap or are you just trying to impress someone? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Meaning, what I might think is beautiful, you might not. So who's to say who's right and who's wrong? You?
There is a reason why there are so many different cars designs out there, because not everyone has the same taste. That's why auto companies have "CONCEPT CARS". To see what the public thinks about different ideas and then the ones that get the most attention either get put into production or they just take styling tips from them and start to weave them into current production cars.

BTW: to the OP, the car looks nice!

 

I'm not "right", I'm just voicing what the majority here feel about it; because there is a reason that the majority feel this way.

Actually, designers are constantly aware of the relationship between consumer and sales feedback when forming concepts and your statement leads truth in that everyone has their own taste, but when a design team goes to work, they don't form concepts to please everyone; they specifically design concepts to please a MAJORITY of the target audience that a specific car is intended to sell to. I certainly wouldn't be so brash as to say that what I'm referring to is "believing crap" or "trying to impress", I am simply stating the state of design logic. Design teams very much control the look and style to appeal to AS MANY POSSIBLE consumers as they can. It's not about how everyone thinks a style appeals, it's more about how the TARGET BUYER MAJORITY feels a style appeals--or represents the image the target consumer wants to be seen as. Eye of the beholder logic is purely idealist and bears absolutely no consideration in terms of "what sells". More people would buy a Nismo kit versus a Veilside kit and this has been proven on websites as this alone. It's not cause one cost more than another obviously and it's not a matter of quality, as Veilside is quite high quality in production and material. Nismo would sell more because it naturally appears much more appropriate to MORE target buyers because MORE consumers of 350Z's are folks that fit a target audience loving clean, performance styling. I think we can all agree that the majority of us my350z members love a real clean nismo v2 versus a veilside v2; same color, same mods back to back--MOST of us, not ALL of us, to quell the fanciful notion of "eye of the beholder".

Holy long freakin' post, robin!

Let's not start a rediculous thread POLL over this majority natural instinct preference of 350Z owner persona's:

Veilside V2


Nismo V2

 

VERY intriguing explanation. As someone that follows design this deserves the mother f'ing plus 1

 

I respect your writeup and while I do understand your explanation of the whole majority preference thing, it still comes down to who can appreciate the real beauty of a kit such as a Veilside one and who just doesn't even take a second look because they think it's ugly based off what the majority thinks. People need to learn to think for themselves IMHO and not just go with what everyone else thinks is "cool."

The Nismo V2 is clearly lacking the WOW factor when I look at it. It is nice, but it doesn't stand out, and doesn't grab my attention like the Veilside V2. The Veilside bumper ends up giving the car a very unique look but still follows the original body styling of the rest of the car. I just don't feel that the Nismo V2 does this as well, especially with those sharp protrusions and sharp edges at the base.

 

+1 i dont like either kit but i wont knock someone with em

 

taste the rainbow

 

Exactly. I am not knocking anyone with the Nismo bumper either... I am just pointing out why you shouldn't just knock on on the Veilside one based off what a whole bunch of people think.

 

i dont think anyone is basing decesions off what other people are saying.


I said ive seen the kit plenty of times and I can appreciate mods but the kit IMO (especially the front end) sucks. So how am I basing my decision off what other people are saying?


so basically if i dont say it's a nice kit I'm just following what other people are saying?


you have alot of ***** to rag on that truck(obviously know nothing about modding to know that wasnt an escalade) but this car/kit is amazing


so you never answered my question as to whether you're connected to VS somehow, do you have a v3? because that would explain alot. ALthough your post count is decieving since i just realized you probably have only had your car for a few months which in that case, im done arguing with a noob....After 4.5 years driving and almost 6 years posting on 350 forums youd think id be jaded by folks like you.


oh and im still waiting to hear where members with the v3 have said the kit has helped performance

 

love the murcielago green color (did that color on my 240sx)...although not a fan of the silver combo. good luck on the rest of your build!

 

Well, I think Xedes' doesn't understand my comments. Lambo makes the car in a solid color and does not make half the car in green and the other in silver or purple. The rap top in black as most rag tops are either black or tan because the same color top usually doesn't blend well due to gloss/flat finishes. The green Ferrari is also a solid 1 tone green. That Lotus color combo I don't agree with but they did have a basis for it. Again, they did not paint half the car one color and the other half a mismatched color.

The veil side kit does not add performance, only robs it. I hope someday you will talk to someone in person that is knowledgable enough to set you straight.

The only people I have run into that think that this kit is so cool are the same ones that look like they were the extras in a knock off F&F movie. I am sorry, but thsat kit is not considered a racing kit or a beautiful kit by most. As I said, you put those same colors an a kit similar to this on a Saturn Ion, what would you call it? The explaination by jinsei888 says it much better than I ever could.

So mabye the offense is mostly taken by me calling it rice, but maybe that is the wrong term. How about I think it looks like a gaudy, mismatched, teen "look at me" mobile? And as I said before, just because some people like the way it looks does not mean it is in good taste. I guarantee you to could take what 95% of the world's population considered the most ugly person and someone would tell you that the person is the most beautiful thing they have ever seen.

So good for him, he is happy with his car, but so are the people (with their cars) that make things look like the yellow roadster above or the SRT Neon with the GTR badges and the Green and Yellow paint job.

 

That’s not totally true they call this a two-tone
http://www.lambocars.com/hr/gal/gallse4.htm

http://www.lambocars.com/hr/gal/gallse14.htm

http://www.lambocars.com/hr/gal/gallse26.htm

As far as the mismatched color that is opinion. Some people don’t like plaid, I love it. Not just anyone can where plaid. Speaking of colors I almost went with chalkboard paint.

Have you ever owned a VeilSide III 350Z? Didn’t think so. How do you know that? To be honest I drove my car for two back and forth to work, 55 miles round trip, for two weeks. With the kit before I got it painted and my gas mileage increased according to my computer in the car. It went from 21mpg avg to 22mpg avg. Now I don’t know if the computer is right, but that’s what it said. I was real surprised myself.

You must not get out much. The Fast and The Furious $207 million in worldwide ticket sales the original film earned. 2 Fast 2 Furious, brought in another $236 million. Tokyo Drift landed $388 million.

I think more than just the extras went to see the movies. People like the cars. I bet you have seen the movie yourself. Now the majority of the 350Z forum people may not like it. I posted it on the aprilia site and those guys like it. That’s expected, they all have good taste they ride Aprilia. I'm not building a race car; I’m building a show car. People on the form dog this movie and want to make fun of it, but I bet 99% of them went to see it. The have probably played “The Need For Speed Underground” on PS2 or Xbox and built a crazy 350Z or Skyline to race with. Then they come on here and talk crap about the movie and the cars. Why? Because they are worried that others might make fun of them for liking it. I liked the movies and the games I’m 33 years old. I don’t care what people think of me. I am financially stable. I can afford to do what I want, when I want and how I want. I don’t need to ask for someone’s approval or acceptance. I like the Honda’s, Toyota’s, and the Nissan’s I like them all. I don’t like all the people who drive them. What’s with all the hate with the movies? Other than the acting.

You can call it rice if you want it doesn’t bother me; some people need to label things. Some can handle the attention from having a gaudy car.
Do you drive a black car? I looked at your profile not a lot of info. Do you have a 350?

 

Ninja Turtle Z. Just joking, props to you for putting in so much work man.

 

HERSHELL post pix of my 350 see what they say about it... Yes it is green too