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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by aceman
Was looking at the Calendar, and it looks like if you want to go on a Friday in May it will be the 12th, 19th or 26th.
Oops My Bad, STUPID work calendar…. Yes you are right, May 12th, 19th, or 26th.

Name; [Car]; Day (e.g. M, F, MF); Notes
1. EnthuZiastDrive (Steve); [Z]; MF; 1 Lane, 75 OK
2. Osix350Z; [Z]; MF; 1 or 2 Lanes
3. Pumpedva; [Z]; MF; 1 or 2 lanes $75 ok
4. Comebackz; [Z]: 1 or 2 lanes; $75 is cool with me
5. Kcobean; [Z];
6. Stillnz; [Z];
7. Sagaboy3; (G); MF
8. Sagaboy3; [Civic]; MF
9. StealthMax; [Maxima];
10. Integrity; [Z];
11.Goofy1477 (Richard); [Z];
12. Noah@AAM; [Z];
13. SilverstonE-06; [Z];
14. SilverstonE-06 Brother; [Z];
15. Gooey; [Z];
16. Nowell; [Z]; 1 or 2 lanes, not worried about price
17. Daniel; {STi} my brother; $50 -$100
18. forced6; (G) Friday two lanes
19. MardiGrasMax;
20. xenonk;
21. Aceman; [Z]; 1 or 2 lanes; price np
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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Hey Brent. Bad news is I'm graduating May 13th. So I won't be back until May 14th (my birthdayyyyyyyy) the earliest.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:29 AM
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Sounds like a great birthday present for yourself.... graduation. Congrats man.

As for the date, nothing has been confirmed, so no sweating it yet.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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id be more or less down for some runs....hopefully ill have something on my Z to start breaking records again...
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:48 AM
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Congrats Steve, I almost forgot about that date, I have to go down to Tech as well for my friends graduation.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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hope you all dont mind me bringing a turbo AWD sedan at the strip for a few runs (05 Subaru Legacy GT)
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Alright it looks like we are pretty much full.
Keefe: Are you bringing just the Subie or is that a second car?
Ben: I have added you to the list.

May 12th, 19th, or 26th.

Name; [Car]; Day (e.g. M, F, MF); Notes
1. EnthuZiastDrive (Steve); [Z]; MF; 1 Lane, 75 OK
2. Osix350Z; [Z]; MF; 1 or 2 Lanes
3. Pumpedva; [Z]; MF; 1 or 2 lanes $75 ok
4. Comebackz; [Z]: 1 or 2 lanes; $75 is cool with me
5. Kcobean; [Z];
6. Stillnz; [Z];
7. Sagaboy3; (G); MF
8. Sagaboy3; [Civic]; MF
9. StealthMax; [Maxima];
10. Integrity; [Z];
11.Goofy1477 (Richard); [Z];
12. Noah@AAM; [Z];
13. SilverstonE-06; [Z];
14. SilverstonE-06 Brother; [Z];
15. Gooey; [Z]; 1 or 2 lanes; price np
16. Nowell; [Z]; 1 or 2 lanes, not worried about price
17. Daniel; {STi} my brother; $50 -$100
18. forced6; (G) Friday two lanes
19. MardiGrasMax;
20. xenonk; (Subie);
21. Aceman; [Z];
22. Sins4u33; [Z];
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Count me in as well, i should have all mods installed by May.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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As far as dates go, the 19th is the weekend of Tail of the Dragon, and I think quite a few on this list are going. The 26th is the Friday before Memorial Day weekend, so that could be good or bad depending on how many people are traveling. It's good for me, but I suspect the 12th will provide the least contention with other activities.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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I vote the 26th. I'll be out of town almost all of April so it'll be easier for me to get off of work on a weekday if its towards the end of May rather then earlier in the month.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:25 AM
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Im interested if its only $50. I have a stock 05 350z Touring though.

Brent, is this a road track or is it a 1/4 mile strip? I would like to see what the Z can do on the road track rather than the strip, havent gotten a chance to really open her up other than the AAM BBQ when we went to that mountain, Sugar Hill or something.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Bambam - just the Subie for now.. need practice for the Prosolo events in June.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Chris,
This is a 1/4 mile drag strip. Unfortunatley as I have a Roadster, I am not allowed on road courses without installing a rollcage.

--B
Originally Posted by Hot Cu
Im interested if its only $50. I have a stock 05 350z Touring though.

Brent, is this a road track or is it a 1/4 mile strip? I would like to see what the Z can do on the road track rather than the strip, havent gotten a chance to really open her up other than the AAM BBQ when we went to that mountain, Sugar Hill or something.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hot Cu
Im interested if its only $50. I have a stock 05 350z Touring though.

Brent, is this a road track or is it a 1/4 mile strip? I would like to see what the Z can do on the road track rather than the strip, havent gotten a chance to really open her up other than the AAM BBQ when we went to that mountain, Sugar Hill or something.

Thanks
~Chris
PM me about track days so you can run the road course at either VIR or Summit Point.

Bambam - Friday At The Track (FATT) at Summit Point arent as strict with the roll bar issue.. many miatas and S2000s have ran with no roll bars (but that rule may change soon).. you can still hit up Summit Point with your Roadster.. if you need info on that, just PM me.. As for drag, I think there's the 10.99/129 rule that goes into effect for cars.. (as in any car that can do faster than a 10.99 and/or trap speed of 129 requires a helmet at the least)... the next governing rule for a full cage is 7.99/149.. I'll have to double check that for you all, but I think that's how it works last time I was reading safety rules.

Although it is still encouraged to get a half cage put in for any roadster for any type of high performance driving.. more of the reason why I rather have a hard top.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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OK, so the date options have changed (forgot about Tail of the Dragon)
OH, and I just got notified that May 12th the track is closed for some type of drag bike school.... SO that last real option is.... May 26th.

We could move it forward if my engine is ready to May 5th but i think that is doubtful right now.

I have confirmed that on both of these dates they have Midnight Madness that starts at 6:30PM for anyone wanting to make a FULL day/night of it.

Our track rental will be a 9 - 5 thing.

Xenonk: Thanks for the information. I might be hitting you up on that info. I know last time I ran a 13.4 @ 109 and they told me I should get a helmet next time I came back. SO I will be picking up a SA rated one this weekend from OG racing and visiting Piper Motor sports to discuss a roll-bar.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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oops, I messed up the quotes for the cage notes.. here's a simple guideline from HOT ROD magazine:

http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/48019/


13.99 or faster:
NHRA requires a DOT, SNELL or SFI helmet for any car quicker than 14.00. There are a number of different specs so you should check with your local tech inspector.

For cars that run e.t.’s between 12.00 and 13.99, all of the above requirements apply along with the addition of a driveshaft loop. A new-for-’95 rule exempts cars running 13.00 and slower when equipped with street tires. Since traction is the key to going quick, this places more strain on the driveshaft. To prevent the driveshaft from breaking at the front U-joint area and perhaps coming into the interior of the car, or digging into the track and pole-vaulting the car, NHRA mandates that a steel loop be placed just behind the front U-joint of the driveshaft. A universal driveshaft loop is available from Lakewood that bolts to the floorpan. A rollbar is required in this e.t. bracket only if the car is a convertible.



11.99 or faster:
By the time a car is capable of running between 11.00 and 11.99 seconds in the quarter-mile, safety requirements are especially important. Up until this point, factory seatbelts are acceptable, but in the 11-second-and-quicker time zone you need a quality safety harness. The minimum requirement is a 3-inch-wide, five-point harness meeting SFI spec 16.1. The 1995 National Hot Rod Association Rulebook outlines the proper way to mount the shoulder harness and belts.

An NHRA-legal rollbar is also required in the category. Recent rule changes have reconfigured what NHRA classifies as a rollbar. The classic four-point bar is no longer acceptable. The new standard is mild-steel tubing of at least .120-inch wall thickness (most chassis companies, like Art Morrison, use .134-inch wall tubing) that includes a forward-running side bar from the main hoop past the driver’s shoulder. This bar is only required on the driver’s side, but most systems include both sides for a six-point rollbar.

An SFI-approved scattershield is also necessary in this e.t. category. NHRA requires the scattershield to have an SFI aluminum-foil sticker. According to Red Roberts of McLeod Industries, older bellhousings can be certified by sending the scattershield and block plate to the original manufacturer. The company will inspect the housing and if it passes, it will receive an SFI 6-1 certification. Most SFI certifications are good for five years. Contact your manufacturer if you’re not sure.

The clutch and flywheel must also be SFI certified. The main consideration in this area is to avoid using a cast-iron flywheel. According to Roberts, sometime in the mid-’70s most of the new car companies began using nodular iron flywheels that are much safer. Most, if not all, current high-performance aluminum and steel flywheels are safe when used in conjunction with an approved scattershield, but the rules state that the pressure plate and flywheel need an SFI certification number. Roberts says the best plan is to record all your SFI numbers in a logbook. This makes it easier for the tech inspector and it shows the inspector that you understand the importance of the inspection process. This e.t. level also requires steel valve stems in all wheels, along with arm restraints for open-cockpit cars like roadsters.


10.99 or faster:
Cars running between 10.00 and 10.99 need all the above-mentioned safety equipment, plus driver’s protective clothing, aftermarket axles and an SFI-approved harmonic balancer. The driver needs to have at least a single-layer, SFI-approved jacket such as those sold by companies like Diest, Simpson, RJR and others, as well as long pants and approved driver’s gloves.

The aftermarket axle requirement also extends to installing a C-clip eliminator kit in any rearend that uses a C-clip to retain the rear axle, such as the GM 10- and 12-bolts and the Ford 8.8-inch rearends. While the current NHRA axle rule does not include an SFI spec for axles, experienced axle manufacturers such as Summers Brothers, Mark Williams, Strange and others offer axles intended for this kind of abuse.

Harmonic balancers first became a subject of concern on blown cars that placed enormous loads on the balancer driving the supercharger. Now, any car running quicker than 10.99 needs an SFI-approved harmonic balancer to be legal. Companies like Vibratech, TCI, BHJ and others can supply the necessary legal part.

A new NHRA safety rule change for 1995 states that cars running between 10.00 and 10.99 must have a rollcage unless the car has an unaltered firewall, floorpan and body (except for wheeltubs). This means if you have a street car with a stock floorpan and firewall but have tubbed it for bigger tires, all you need is a five-point rollbar until the car runs quicker than 10.00. Of course, a rollcage is perfectly acceptable if you wish to install one.


9.99 or faster:
Now we’re into the really quick cars, those running from 9.00 to 9.99 seconds in the quarter. These cars are blazingly fast and capable of speeds approaching 150 mph. Significant improvements must be made to the car in order to step into the 9-second zone. Foremost among these is a rollcage. The cage must be constructed of mild-steel tubing at least 15/8 inch in diameter, with .120-inch wall thickness. It can also be chrome-moly tubing of .083-inch wall thickness with a total of eight attachment points. These eight points refer to the placement of the cage surrounding the driver, including the two rear support bars. NHRA does not require bars that run forward to the front suspension, although many cage designs include them. All cars running 9.99 or quicker must have the cage certified by NHRA and have the NHRA certification sticker attached to the cage.

Attached to the cage is a window net to keep the driver’s arms inside the car. The driver must also wear a neck collar and fireproof clothing meeting an SFI spec. Additional requirements include an NHRA competition license, an external electrical shutoff and a flexplate/automatic transmission shield. If your car can run over 150 mph in the quarter, as many of these cars do, then NHRA also requires a parachute to help slow the car down. Now that we’ve primed the pump, your best bet is to obtain a 1995 NHRA Rulebook for $10 and carefully read the E.T. Bracket General Regulations section. The Rulebook specifies exactly what will be required depending upon your car’s e.t. capability. Drag racing with fast street cars is tons of fun. It’s even better when you do it safely.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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Keefe: Man, thanks a lot for that information. I have been looking for e.t and tech stuff for a while. I really appreciate it. Not like I am going to get much beyond the 13's for the moment, but very good stuff to know for the 11 - 12's I expect to be in my future...

FYI: I confirmed there is no NOS available on track days. Also.... the fuel station will only be open once (maybe twice if we ask REAL nice like). So it would behoove us to wait until everyone is present then all get the good ++ gas at once. This will be cool, we can do a couple of runs on 93, then anyone wanting to can, crank up the boost and get some race fuel runs.

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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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not a prob.. been around cars for a while, more so about racing than show..
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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any more word on this? I'll need to write this day down so I wont forget it..
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 07:30 AM
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Well, it is looking like it will Most Likely be May 26th....
BUTTT don't hold me to this until I can get some more confirmation on my engine schedule. I expect to make a final decision around the end of March. By then I should have a definite feel for the engine build completion date.
--Brent
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