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Old 11-16-2008, 04:06 AM
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Videos ...

First pull, 325WHP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BKR1mSTtkg

Second pull, 335 WHP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYYIBVQwSXE

Third pull, 345 WHP:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sleTzuXOM4

I didn't get the last full power pull on video because I was too busy fapping to 345WHP. In total, I think Dave did about 8 pulls on the dyno - most of them, like the third, were held at certain RPM ranges with load to refine the map in specific areas, then went all the way to redline.

And the pics ...

F:T Fuel Return System:








On the dyno ...









And let us not forget, the dyno charts


Old 11-16-2008, 08:06 AM
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nice numbers!
Old 11-16-2008, 08:11 PM
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right about 400 on a DJ. nice and non-rod breaking! good job

seems amazing that sentry65 was at least 60 hp more to make ~425 DD numbers

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Old 11-17-2008, 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
right about 400 on a DJ. nice and non-rod breaking! good job
Thanks! Dave gets all the credit for that, the tune is excellent. He said it's moderately aggressive, but not crazy.
Old 11-17-2008, 11:17 AM
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good post...excellent on the details...
Old 11-17-2008, 11:49 AM
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Thanks man, there's probably quite a few details I left out ... so I'd be happy to answer any questions
Old 11-17-2008, 11:56 AM
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Awesome job man... MMmmmm.. So thats the custom fuel return system I can look forward to seeing.. Excuse me while I shut the office door for about 5 mins....

AAhhh, now that thats done..

I bet you are ecstatic man!! Sorry I didn't get a chance to come down and check it out. Was at work on Saturday till 9pm, for the love.

Great numbers! The best part about it is that you put it all together in your garage minus tune and fuel. That gets abig ole ATTA BOY!!

Dave said that he's working on my baby this week so maybe I'll be able to have my build thread with numbers up sometime soon.

So, what's the next step for you?
Old 11-17-2008, 12:31 PM
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Not really sure what the next step is to be honest. I haven't fully comitted to making it a track car, or if I'm just going to leave well enough alone (for now). It's likely to be a track car, so with that in mind ...

Lighter/Stronger Wheels - preferably 18x9 & 18x10 (Enkei's probably)
R Compound Tires
Brakes
Seats
Harnesses & Bar
Cooling Upgrades
Coilovers

It never ends ... although, I've done quite a bit in the 10 months that I've owned the car
Old 11-17-2008, 01:48 PM
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Very niiice! :-)
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Very nice numbers on Dave's dyno.
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Thanks for the compliments ... too bad the car is about to get parked for the winter in a few days (maybe a few weeks).

I have enough parts to build a carputer, just need a touchscreen, so maybe I'll do that this winter so I can run this: http://www.jeffsoftware.com/software.php?product=UTI

I don't want a bunch of annoying gauges up the pillar and elswehere in the car, I figure a nice 7" screen in the cubby with that and a wideband would be perfect. Plus, I can setup other data aquistion devices/software and video inputs for when I'm at the track.

I'm screwed ... too many ideas and my wife has pulled the financial carpet out from under me. Anyone need a man *****?
Old 11-26-2008, 12:19 PM
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Nice setup. Followed your post all the way through. With the 2.87 pulley are you at 12 lbs yet. I have the AAM stage 2 kit and i'm interested in changing out the pulley to make 12lbs. I was speaking with the rep at vortech and he was telling me that you have to have the 28 tooth cog and the 2.87 to produce 12lbs is that factual? Also I have a meth kit I'm looking to place on the car also.. I believe this would seal the deal on preventing my stock block from exploding.. your thoughts? I know one of the things I'm working on with my car is anything that involes cooling are removing the heat faster from the car. I'm looking into an exhaust, oil cooler, meth, coolant returns off the TB, etc. Once I'm completed with those I will start working on suspension.

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I hit 10.9PSI on the dyno if I'm not mistaken. Explosion prevention is only as good as your tune However, meth would definately help.
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Originally Posted by Car vs. Driver
I hit 10.9PSI on the dyno if I'm not mistaken. Explosion prevention is only as good as your tune However, meth would definately help.
10 is nice. AAM ran mine on the dyno and got 371 out of it. I was told that i could have got 10 more hp but it was tuned conservative. I'm debating when I want to add meth and get that 2.87 pulley and 28 tooth cog wheel. As I mentioned this is what vortech said would provide 12lbs.
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Honestly, boost isn't what's important with an SC. In fact, with the right supporting mods, you'll make less boost and more power.
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Originally Posted by Car vs. Driver
Honestly, boost isn't what's important with an SC. In fact, with the right supporting mods, you'll make less boost and more power.
i agreed 10000000000000%

listen to him sajazzman
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And I forgot to mention, watch your blower RPM with that setup ... you have to make sure you don't spin the SC beyond it's maximum speed.

Impeller speed= (Crank Pulley Ø / Jackshaft Pulley Ø) x (Cog Pulley Teeth behind jackshaft/Cog Pulley Teeth on headunit) x Internal Step Up Ratio x Engine RPM

You can plug that into excel at 100RPM intervals up to your desired red line and chart it

Or you can just go here ...

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...d%20Calculator




Ninja edit, some values you'll need:
Stock Crank Pulley: 5.75"
Stock Cog: 32 teeth
Stock SC Cog: 28 teeth
Step Up Ratio: 3.61 (assuming you have a stock V2 blower)

Mine spins up to just under 54K RPM at 6500 - I normally shift around 6200-6500. I believe the danger zone on the blower is when you run it over 54K, but I could be wrong.

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Calculator attached (100 RPM intervals), assuming you have Excel.
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Originally Posted by Car vs. Driver

Mine spins up to just under 54K RPM at 6500 - I normally shift around 6200-6500. I believe the danger zone on the blower is when you run it over 54K, but I could be wrong.
Great info man! Schweeeet...thanks

also keep inmind that our RPM gauges are idiot proof meaning that 6500 rpms showing is more like 6200 rpms because yahoos like us miss shifts from time to time...lol
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Really? That's good to know! I'll have to do some comparisons against that and the UTEC dashboard to see how far off it is.

I also read up and the max speed on the V2 SC-Trim is 53,000RPM.


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