350Z Vs Bullit Mustang
Originally posted by sakred
it was a chasi dyno. it eliminates alignment issuse in the tires, and power loss due to friction. also the way it mesured power was that the cars gear ratios needed to be put in so it used them to factor whp numbers. it does dyno a lil higher then a mustang dyno by about 6-8 hp. so even still il give you my lower numbers which are still higher then a bullitts 254rwhp
. if any of you bothered to read the thread with my numbers in it all of this was discussed and the owner of the dyno also gave his input.
Hammad
it was a chasi dyno. it eliminates alignment issuse in the tires, and power loss due to friction. also the way it mesured power was that the cars gear ratios needed to be put in so it used them to factor whp numbers. it does dyno a lil higher then a mustang dyno by about 6-8 hp. so even still il give you my lower numbers which are still higher then a bullitts 254rwhp
. if any of you bothered to read the thread with my numbers in it all of this was discussed and the owner of the dyno also gave his input.Hammad
Originally posted by sakred
even after i show you guys my car put down 264rwhp thats 1 less hp then the bullitt has at the crank.
Hammad
even after i show you guys my car put down 264rwhp thats 1 less hp then the bullitt has at the crank.
Hammad
OH and please go to a regular Dyno then Scan your Dyno results in and post it so we can all see your real #'s and not the inflated ones that you wish you had

Here are mine...now its your turn to put up or shut up
Last edited by 02silverstanger; Mar 2, 2003 at 06:01 PM.
ok i can see you ***** dont give up. so il be the bigger man and shut up. you and your fast mustang win. i will appologize on your behalf seeing as your a moron. look around at the japanese websites youl see Zs dyno upwards of 250 all day long. but hey no more argument from my side.
Hammad
Hammad
Originally posted by sakred
ok i can see you ***** dont give up. so il be the bigger man and shut up. you and your fast mustang win. i will appologize on your behalf seeing as your a moron. look around at the japanese websites youl see Zs dyno upwards of 250 all day long. but hey no more argument from my side.
Hammad
ok i can see you ***** dont give up. so il be the bigger man and shut up. you and your fast mustang win. i will appologize on your behalf seeing as your a moron. look around at the japanese websites youl see Zs dyno upwards of 250 all day long. but hey no more argument from my side.
Hammad
Oh yeah and thanks for calling us *****. That was nice of you.
This guy Hammad seems to have gotten his panties in a bunch.... He actually thinks that we care about him and his poor little undersized, overpriced, horsepower having, torque lacking rice mobile... sorry, just had to bash.
Since when is horsepower everything? On paper, the 350Z has 280HP, Bullitt's have been dynoed at 280HP, so Hammad, there is your answer, when it comes to HP, both cars are equal....
Now the only question is... do you want some bone thin Japanese rice monkey admiring your whining winged wondor, or a 38-28-36 super model blonde drooling over your gorgeous piece of growling American History? You do the math.
Since when is horsepower everything? On paper, the 350Z has 280HP, Bullitt's have been dynoed at 280HP, so Hammad, there is your answer, when it comes to HP, both cars are equal....
Now the only question is... do you want some bone thin Japanese rice monkey admiring your whining winged wondor, or a 38-28-36 super model blonde drooling over your gorgeous piece of growling American History? You do the math.
hahahahah yeah you can have your hill billy supermodel( god knows its probably your own sister your talking about ). il bet you, your soule and your ugly mustang that i can get more wemen than you driving an 89 corola then you can in your "American history" mobile. you guys are a riot.
Hammad
Hammad
Originally posted by sakred
hahahahah yeah you can have your hill billy supermodel( god knows its probably your own sister your talking about ). il bet you, your soule and your ugly mustang that i can get more wemen than you driving an 89 corola then you can in your "American history" mobile. you guys are a riot.
Hammad
hahahahah yeah you can have your hill billy supermodel( god knows its probably your own sister your talking about ). il bet you, your soule and your ugly mustang that i can get more wemen than you driving an 89 corola then you can in your "American history" mobile. you guys are a riot.
Hammad
Before you judge somebody and try cracking jokes, use your spell check, located at the top of the thing you are looking at on the bar with all the writing and stuff, because you type like an 8th grader.... Muahahahah
Bye the way, she was YOUR sister, I just did not want to hurt your feelings..... and could you tell her to give back the 40 some odd pairs of boxers she hidden under your moms bed, I kinda need them back...
hammad didnt wanna ruin you lil parade of POS american cars. u guys said u wanted a dyno for the 350Z that put upwards of 350+ rwhp? ill do better then that heres hammad's own dyno for his car. We dont have to lie about our cars, but if dont wanna believe us then call church auto test at (310)787-7123. he should have his dyno on record still. 264.5 rwhp and 250.6 ft/lbs of torque. Hammads 350Z put up now shut up. im sure my homie with his civic would like to reverse the roles on the mustang picking on civics routine. hehe. and if u all just wanna bash on me, think im just some ricer who doesnt kno **** and hides behind other peoples cars why dont u guys and your mustangs come down to the south bay and we can settle this. hope u guys can afford the gas. hahahahahaha. Enough talk, now lets race. latez.
Man, this is gettin' ugly!
I personally like the 350Z. I think it got some prettty cool looks. I like my Bullitt for the same reason. Both cars have thier merits- the HP is about equal for both cars, and the Bullitt has more torque. Whose car is better? I guess it depends on the situation, but my money is on the Bullitt because of it's superior torque. I suppose it's possible that Hammad's Dyno numbers are accurate, I mean, maybe the factory produced a monster with 25 more RWHP than any other Z built, unless he has some mods he's not owning up to. Anything is possible! I appreciate that he won his race..like he said, on another day- he might get his *** handed to him by a mustang (like the day he meets me
) and he might beat another one..But stock for stock, the numbers are nearly the same, Remember, Ford underrated the Bullitt's HP, and The Bullitt does have more torque....so, The Bullitt is faster than the Z 0-60, but the Z might pull ahead at the top end if that 0-60 advantage wasn't enough to give the Bullitt enough headway to make up for the HP difference. I know that personally, I have had my Bullitt to 150+MPH, and it was still pulling hard..I like that a lot. PLus, it sounds like it has some big, hairy ones. Again, I do believe that Hammad won his race, let's just leave him alone about it and let him enjoy his win!
As for Supraman-
Dude, you got some ***** making fun of "American POS's" like the mustang- especially when compared to the 350Z that is made by Peugeot. Anyone here remember the Renault? Or, do most of you want to forget that monstrosity of a car? Made by Whom?
PEUGEOT (the parent company of Nissan)
..those who live in glass houses.......
But, why does all this matter? Truth is, it does not matter one bit. I'd love to cruise with you guys- but let's make a rule- no car bashing!
I personally like the 350Z. I think it got some prettty cool looks. I like my Bullitt for the same reason. Both cars have thier merits- the HP is about equal for both cars, and the Bullitt has more torque. Whose car is better? I guess it depends on the situation, but my money is on the Bullitt because of it's superior torque. I suppose it's possible that Hammad's Dyno numbers are accurate, I mean, maybe the factory produced a monster with 25 more RWHP than any other Z built, unless he has some mods he's not owning up to. Anything is possible! I appreciate that he won his race..like he said, on another day- he might get his *** handed to him by a mustang (like the day he meets me
) and he might beat another one..But stock for stock, the numbers are nearly the same, Remember, Ford underrated the Bullitt's HP, and The Bullitt does have more torque....so, The Bullitt is faster than the Z 0-60, but the Z might pull ahead at the top end if that 0-60 advantage wasn't enough to give the Bullitt enough headway to make up for the HP difference. I know that personally, I have had my Bullitt to 150+MPH, and it was still pulling hard..I like that a lot. PLus, it sounds like it has some big, hairy ones. Again, I do believe that Hammad won his race, let's just leave him alone about it and let him enjoy his win!As for Supraman-
Dude, you got some ***** making fun of "American POS's" like the mustang- especially when compared to the 350Z that is made by Peugeot. Anyone here remember the Renault? Or, do most of you want to forget that monstrosity of a car? Made by Whom?
PEUGEOT (the parent company of Nissan)
..those who live in glass houses.......But, why does all this matter? Truth is, it does not matter one bit. I'd love to cruise with you guys- but let's make a rule- no car bashing!
the Z is NOT built by peugeot, they just happen to own the majority of hte stock, if this is the case, does everyone driving a Chrysler really think they are driving a BENZ???? Everyone driving a Chevy really driving a Suzuki?? (the metro was built by them) and everyone driving a Ford really driving a Yamaha (the SHO was built by them)???oh, I just learned that some new saturns are going to have Honda engines, why NOT GMs??? what is going on here??
if you know anything about the engine in the Z, it has been develop, and revolutionized several times by nissan for MANY years.
if you know anything about the engine in the Z, it has been develop, and revolutionized several times by nissan for MANY years.
Originally posted by Supraman
hammad didnt wanna ruin you lil parade of POS american cars. u guys said u wanted a dyno for the 350Z that put upwards of 350+ rwhp? ill do better then that heres hammad's own dyno for his car. We dont have to lie about our cars, but if dont wanna believe us then call church auto test at (310)787-7123. he should have his dyno on record still. 264.5 rwhp and 250.6 ft/lbs of torque. Hammads 350Z put up now shut up.
hammad didnt wanna ruin you lil parade of POS american cars. u guys said u wanted a dyno for the 350Z that put upwards of 350+ rwhp? ill do better then that heres hammad's own dyno for his car. We dont have to lie about our cars, but if dont wanna believe us then call church auto test at (310)787-7123. he should have his dyno on record still. 264.5 rwhp and 250.6 ft/lbs of torque. Hammads 350Z put up now shut up.
Dude, use your head. These large aquisitions mean that the larger company is going to play a pivotal role in determining what parts and engineering are going to be involved in the process of buliding a car. SO, this is why Chrysler's stock goes up when Daimler Benz decides to take controlling interest of the company. When you are buying a Dodge or Chrysler, there are parts and descision making going on behind the scenes that are going to be determined by Benz that ultimately lead to a better quality car for Chrysler owners. I understand that the engine may have been developed by Nissan, but parts, and/or suppliers will be determined by Peugeot. You must realize that these mergers take place so that these makers can share parts across platforms to increase the larger company's bottom line. It IS a fact that all Mazdas are Ford Vehicles (ultimately) and all Lexuses are Toyotas. If you doubt what I say, look at the intake manifold on a Mitsubishi, and check out the Shiny Chrysler logo. The devil is in the details, and if you share parts with a Peugeot, best of luck to you- I wish you all the best. You could have the best engineered engine in the world, but if it's put together with crappy parts-
Sayonara. I hope this is not the case for your vehicle, i wouldn't wish a Peugeot on anyone.
lata
J
Sayonara. I hope this is not the case for your vehicle, i wouldn't wish a Peugeot on anyone.
lata
J
To my mustang bretherens:
We honestly have to stop this 350z Vs Mustang pissing contest. This is their site, so let them have their fun. Everyone is always going to vouch for their car, but unless any of the two different car owners live nearby, to settle a dispute at the track, i suggest we quit the bickering with 'em
. It just turns into a waste of bandwidth.
As for the Dyno numbers on the Z. Congrats. But not everyone dyno's their car as you did. Most use dynojets and among those you have STD(higher#'s) and SAE(lower#'s) corrected. So the same car is going to put down different #'s, which one is correct? Personally, i think dyno#'s are just for show. You can have 350rwhp, but if you can't drive and/or put that power to the ground, then what good is it. Get some times and brag about those.
We honestly have to stop this 350z Vs Mustang pissing contest. This is their site, so let them have their fun. Everyone is always going to vouch for their car, but unless any of the two different car owners live nearby, to settle a dispute at the track, i suggest we quit the bickering with 'em
As for the Dyno numbers on the Z. Congrats. But not everyone dyno's their car as you did. Most use dynojets and among those you have STD(higher#'s) and SAE(lower#'s) corrected. So the same car is going to put down different #'s, which one is correct? Personally, i think dyno#'s are just for show. You can have 350rwhp, but if you can't drive and/or put that power to the ground, then what good is it. Get some times and brag about those.
Last edited by AngelGT2000; Mar 3, 2003 at 07:57 AM.
well put AngelGT2000. i didnt come here bashing someones car. but apparently 02silverstanger got his panties in a bunch. but hey its all in good fun. oh and about my hommie Supraman. hahaha hel pretty much dust any american car shy of a ZO6. and pretty soon he should be at upwards of 600 whp. so if your local i wouldnt challenge him.
Hammad
Hammad
Originally posted by sakred
well put AngelGT2000. i didnt come here bashing someones car. but apparently 02silverstanger got his panties in a bunch. but hey its all in good fun. oh and about my hommie Supraman. hahaha hel pretty much dust any american car shy of a ZO6. and pretty soon he should be at upwards of 600 whp. so if your local i wouldnt challenge him.
Hammad
well put AngelGT2000. i didnt come here bashing someones car. but apparently 02silverstanger got his panties in a bunch. but hey its all in good fun. oh and about my hommie Supraman. hahaha hel pretty much dust any american car shy of a ZO6. and pretty soon he should be at upwards of 600 whp. so if your local i wouldnt challenge him.
Hammad
Originally posted by RiceKiller
Dude, use your head. These large aquisitions mean that the larger company is going to play a pivotal role in determining what parts and engineering are going to be involved in the process of buliding a car. SO, this is why Chrysler's stock goes up when Daimler Benz decides to take controlling interest of the company. When you are buying a Dodge or Chrysler, there are parts and descision making going on behind the scenes that are going to be determined by Benz that ultimately lead to a better quality car for Chrysler owners. I understand that the engine may have been developed by Nissan, but parts, and/or suppliers will be determined by Peugeot. You must realize that these mergers take place so that these makers can share parts across platforms to increase the larger company's bottom line. It IS a fact that all Mazdas are Ford Vehicles (ultimately) and all Lexuses are Toyotas. If you doubt what I say, look at the intake manifold on a Mitsubishi, and check out the Shiny Chrysler logo. The devil is in the details, and if you share parts with a Peugeot, best of luck to you- I wish you all the best. You could have the best engineered engine in the world, but if it's put together with crappy parts-
Sayonara. I hope this is not the case for your vehicle, i wouldn't wish a Peugeot on anyone.
lata
J
Dude, use your head. These large aquisitions mean that the larger company is going to play a pivotal role in determining what parts and engineering are going to be involved in the process of buliding a car. SO, this is why Chrysler's stock goes up when Daimler Benz decides to take controlling interest of the company. When you are buying a Dodge or Chrysler, there are parts and descision making going on behind the scenes that are going to be determined by Benz that ultimately lead to a better quality car for Chrysler owners. I understand that the engine may have been developed by Nissan, but parts, and/or suppliers will be determined by Peugeot. You must realize that these mergers take place so that these makers can share parts across platforms to increase the larger company's bottom line. It IS a fact that all Mazdas are Ford Vehicles (ultimately) and all Lexuses are Toyotas. If you doubt what I say, look at the intake manifold on a Mitsubishi, and check out the Shiny Chrysler logo. The devil is in the details, and if you share parts with a Peugeot, best of luck to you- I wish you all the best. You could have the best engineered engine in the world, but if it's put together with crappy parts-
Sayonara. I hope this is not the case for your vehicle, i wouldn't wish a Peugeot on anyone.
lata
J
Hey dude, My apologies. I wasn't my intention to pi$$ ya off. We just have a difference of opinion, and like Hammad said, it's all in good fun. Good luck with your car, have fun with it! Like i said in a previous post, i happen to really like the 350Z. I was just trying to ruffle your feathers. Again, enjoy your car- it's a nice one!
Lata
J
Lata
J
Originally posted by RiceKiller
Hey dude, My apologies. I wasn't my intention to pi$$ ya off. We just have a difference of opinion, and like Hammad said, it's all in good fun. Good luck with your car, have fun with it! Like i said in a previous post, i happen to really like the 350Z. I was just trying to ruffle your feathers. Again, enjoy your car- it's a nice one!
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J
Hey dude, My apologies. I wasn't my intention to pi$$ ya off. We just have a difference of opinion, and like Hammad said, it's all in good fun. Good luck with your car, have fun with it! Like i said in a previous post, i happen to really like the 350Z. I was just trying to ruffle your feathers. Again, enjoy your car- it's a nice one!
Lata
J
BTW...it's RENAULT, not Peugot. And I don't know if you would term their relationship with Nissan as "owners"...they have a 36% stake in Nissan's stock, which gives them a controlling interest. If memory serves, Ford has a similar interest in Mazda, but I never hear that Ford "owns" Mazda.


