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Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Bullitt_#1346
He meant the horsepower was measured at the wheels, and based on that measurement the car was making 280hp rather than 260hp. Most Bullitts were dynoing around 230rwhp to 245rwhp stock on dynojets.
I kind of figured that is what he meant and if you read my post you will see I even said that is what I thought he meant.
Old Feb 14, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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I dont believe my numbers were wrong, but the description was unclear. I am not expert and the numbers can confuse me, but here it goes. If I understand correctly, the horsepower is measured on a dyno, then a 15% loss in drivetrain or flywheel is applied which gives you the bhp made at the wheels. So at 245 dyno jet hp, 15% drivetrain loss applied, then the bhp at the wheels is about 280 give or take. I dont know the formula but do know that Ford underrated the cars. Whether or not my exact figures are correct, that doesnt matter, the point is the car is underrated and dont sleap on it.

Dont get scared by my fellow Bullittheads, they mean well.

Peace not war, I only posted here to show my love for my car and my appreciation for the Nissan 350Z. As for a 2001 GT, you are lucky you are a Mustang owner... Just kidding
That is incorrect. What you run on the Dyno like a Dynoject drum dyno gives you your actual rear wheel horse power. Now the standard used by many is to divide that number by .85 and that gives you your approximate engine hp some call it crank hp power and some say flywheel hp power. I hope that clears it up it can be confusing.

Here is an example my car ran 227 at the wheels. Now divide that number by .85 and you get your approximate engine hp which would be 267. From what I have seen most Bullitt’s are running about 234 RWHP divide by .85 and you get 275 engine hp. So it is safe to say that Bullitt’s are a bit underrated from the factory. Then again my car was also underrated base on my numbers.
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just for referance i put down 264 RWHP on a dyno in my stock Z



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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by sakred
just for referance i put down 264 RWHP on a dyno in my stock Z



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Can u please post the dyno sheet? That means ur car have 310HP from the factory. That means ur car has 23Hp more than any other Z. U should run mid 13's to high 13's at 102-103.
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Originally posted by sakred
just for referance i put down 264 RWHP on a dyno in my stock Z
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I can't see how that is possible that is about 30 more RWHP then 99% of all the other 350Z's out there. I would also like to see a dyno sheet. If this did happen there is a good possibility that the Dyno you used needs to be calibrated. I would find other dyno and verify your cars power.
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Originally posted by sakred
just for referance i put down 264 RWHP on a dyno in my stock Z



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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by LSs1Power
Can u please post the dyno sheet? That means ur car have 310HP from the factory. That means ur car has 23Hp more than any other Z. U should run mid 13's to high 13's at 102-103.
yea... sounds like fishy if you have 264 rwhp out on a stock engine. i have only seen 350's dyno at 220-230 rwhp.....
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for you newbies i posted this thread a long time ago. oh and please read through the whole thread before you post stuff like BS


https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....e+dissapointed


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also i took my car to teh track i pulled a 14.2 at 96 mph this was down in palmdale. so if i was at sealevel i should run around the time


this wasnt my thread but the guy in teh Mcoupe mentioned me. i didnt bother to scan teh slip since i believe i can do allot better.




http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthrea...hreadid=100270
Can u please post the dyno sheet? That means ur car have 310HP from the factory. That means ur car has 23Hp more than any other Z. U should run mid 13's to high 13's at 102-103

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Wow, in that post there is another guy that got 251rwhp too. The V6 Q engine is as strong as the 97-98 4.6L 4v V8 305HP cobra engine and that is impressive. Now, i would like to see some 350Z cut high 13's at 102-103 or so with all this power.
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Go dyno ur car on a dynojet, and than u can compare #s...
Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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2001Stang,

Ah Ha, you see I am a novice. I had the numbers right, but backwards... Thanks for correcting me... I was just trying to point out you cannot take anyones word for anything, ford, mm&ff, or anybody unless you see it for yourself. I cant even guarantee that he had 280 ENGINE, CRANKSHAFT, OR FLYWHEEL hp, just word of mouth, and I think he provided a dyno sheet, but then again I cant make heads or tales of those either

Any of you 350Z owners out here in the NYC area, I will runum with anybody, expert, novice, old lady..... just for the fun of it....

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No way spiffmeister. The Z is the ultimate supercar and cannot be beaten.

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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That sounds like a nice kill...the biggest problem with the later model Mustangs is that they are under geared, seeing as how they all come with 3.27 rear gears...and every other sports car for the most part comes with 3.43 or higher...the second biggest problem is that Ford sufficates them to death...there is no reason why the 2V 4.6 liter motor in the GT shouldn't be coming out of the factory with 300 HP at the crank..but then they could not sell the bullit or mach 1 for the price tag they have on them.

I am not a typical Mustang owner ( I guess), as I like Import sports cars ( not Rice) , if it is a true sports car then that works for me.

I thinks it exciting to read about all the cars you are trying your 350's against...trying to see where your cars rate " in the street"

and the above posts are correct..ANYTHING can happen in the street...as I have actually beaten a 98 formula with the LS1 engine (over 300 RWHP), (when I only had an X pipe and catback exhaust), from one light to the next.

But thats my .02...anyway nice car awsome KILL
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5- 281 Saleen ( Basically GT with better Catback lighter hood) 99-100 few 101's

let me correct you, the N/A saleen has the borla catback, saleen power pullies, saleen high flow air filter, (saleen power flash) high compression, borla cat-back, short throw shifter, racecraft suspension, saleen springs, and poly urethane all around, the car is actually lighter than a normal GT. they are rated at 285 hp and 315 lb feet of torque directly from saleen...they usually run high 13's..a great match for the Z....
Old Feb 19, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by saleens28100
let me correct you, the N/A saleen has the borla catback, saleen power pullies, saleen high flow air filter, (saleen power flash) high compression, borla cat-back, short throw shifter, racecraft suspension, saleen springs, and poly urethane all around, the car is actually lighter than a normal GT. they are rated at 285 hp and 315 lb feet of torque directly from saleen...they usually run high 13's..a great match for the Z....
not to say ur wrong, but the stiffer suspension and larger wheels(18's) does hurt the saleen in the 1/4mile(longer 60ft's) with sometimes faster trapspeed. That is why the added parts like the catback, pullies, filter doesnt make it that fast(compare to a normal GT in the 1/4mile). By the way not all Saleen's get the lighter hood and the pullies. And what did u mean by higher compression? Do u mean that a N/A Saleen has a higher C/R than a N/A GT? This is the first time i have heard such a thing. I know for a fact that Saleen doesn't play within the motor, they just add external parts as bolt ons. Correct me if im wrong.
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yes, saleen does the powerflash calibration to the car, on my window sticker it says premium fuel calibration, i was told by the dealer they speed up the timing. also the computer in the car is not a standard ford computer its a saleen computer.
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Originally posted by saleens28100
let me correct you, the N/A saleen has the borla catback, saleen power pullies, saleen high flow air filter, (saleen power flash) high compression, borla cat-back, short throw shifter, racecraft suspension, saleen springs, and poly urethane all around, the car is actually lighter than a normal GT. they are rated at 285 hp and 315 lb feet of torque directly from saleen...they usually run high 13's..a great match for the Z....
How is the Saleen lighter than the normal GT? Just curious my shipping weight was 3150 and that is pretty light.



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