I disagree at speed weight is much less a factor, and TQ helps at any speed

 

Thats cool if you disagree...but

Yes, torque helps at any speed....but once your up and moving, it is much less of a factor.

Also, again at speed weight is much less of a factor...but for example, 3000 lbs for the maxima (not sure if that is with or with out a driver)....but the Cobra is 3600 lbs (with out driver)....everything else equal.....you really think they are going to pull equally as fast?
Not trying to be a pain in the butt...but 600 lbs (without driver) is a pretty heafty weight to be hauling.

 

Everything equal the lighter car should win. However with enough of a TQ advantage and equal HP yes the higher TQ powered car can keep up from a roll if heavier. Once moving weight is not much of an disavatage now if you are talking 2000lbs more that is a different story.

No for what really matters is the car that the Maxima raced was not a 03 Cobra. If it was with the mods listed it would have pulled that Maxima (More then likely) Click on the link of the car dynoing with only exhaust mods 425 RWHP

 

I agree...to a point with what you're saying...but don't want to take the chance of talking about it any further cause with neither one of us not driving a Z, we'll be banned for sure....LOL

I'm reading that post now....
Ya know....just for the record, I think it's pretty messed up you have to register on some boards JUST TO READ IT (hint, hint )

 

A Turbo maxima recently put down 429rwhp. As for torque, if you have cars with equal hp and one has more peak torque than the other than obviously the one with LESS peak torque is making it at a much higher RPM. Therefore the car with LESS peak torque will most likely have more pull in the top part of the rev range (where races from a roll usually happen).


If you want to split hairs on weither or not a turbo max could beat a lightly modded 03 Cobra....let's just say this. The max in the video was running 10.5psi with his varible intake manifold INOP. If he was running his usual 14psi with an operational Variable intake manifold, he would make a good bit MORE power than a lightly modded 03 cobra while still weighing in at 600lbs less.

What's really the most amusing is that we're having a conversation about weither or not a Turbo V6 powered family sedan could pull on a Supercharged V8 Muscle Car

 

actaully....V8 Muscle car, or any other car...a family sedan that pulls like that is impressive....expecially with a 6.

 

Okay but all I am saying is in this video that everyone is watching that isn't an 03 Cobra, that's all. However the Maxima ower either thinks it is or wants others to think it. Either way it isn't a 03 Cobra... end of story.

I think it is great that tubro modded maximas are putting down 429RWHP that's great.

Some modded 03 Cobras are putting out over 550RWHP. They have not even been out a year yet give it more time and you will be seeing over 700RWHP on stock internals. My point is the 03 Cobra has much more potential for power then a Maxima

 

 

Did it look like this?

Or this?

From your description of the bike and the race I think you would have raced one of the above. Truimph also released a speed four which is a 600cc bike that to most people would look the same as a speed triple.

Stock speed triples dyno between 100-115hp to the wheel depending on year. 1/4 mi times are high tens and top speed is 140-ish. The speed four runs the 1/4 mi in mid-elevens and the thunderbird is high twelves. All of the above bikes have engines and gearing tuned for low to midrange power and are not aerodynamic in any sense of the word.

I have a speed triple and the things hauls until I get to about 120mph. After that it's like I have my foot on the rear brake but I'm still trying to accelerate! These bikes are great for the real world because they have accessible powerbands and instant power but they are not top speed bandits.

 

Yeah....it was simular to one of those....obviously, I would have to say chances of it being a spped triple are slim, though I must say out of the two...it looked most like that. But it was dark, so...who knows....it was a fun, and it's rare I get a chance to race these days

Thanks for the info
Chris

 

Hey Jester...wanna run my modded R6?????

 

Hey...I'm up for running anything....

Do I think I will win....uh...no....lol....but I'll run anything....
I'm all about just having fun with this stuff man (can't honestly say I'm happy when I get beat....but it's all in fun )