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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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All I need to say... is we drive 13 second cars. Period.

More so, I have nearly the HEAVIEST model you can get... minus NAV...

Enjoy... car 6406!
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Old Apr 2, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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It isn't a 13 second car until u have a slip showing a 13 second run......

nice times for the distance u did run tho
Old Apr 2, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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That's a nice run. Should be a around a 14.0xxsec run. I did a 9.0xx run in my S2000 in the 1/8, Then 2 weeks later did a 14.2xx in the 1/4. You should be a little bit better on the top end.
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That looks good. My best run from last weekend was a 14.112 with a 2.237 60' and a 9.173 1/8. That is a damn good 60'. What did you do?
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Originally posted by VQracer
Come on Phoenix, show the rest of the slip.

Nice RT too.

Victor
Who's this phoenix guy everyone keeps talking about?

That's all there is... its a 1/8 mile track. No 1/4 locally.
Old Apr 2, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by CLS
That is a damn good 60'. What did you do?
Rear pressure at 27... lil' burn out to clean the tires off...

and my launch... it's just Evil.
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Ok, since we all have Z's, how do you do your EVIL launch. If I get my 60' down I will be in the 13's easy.
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very nice run! I am thinking about a 350 but really want the M3 but they run mid 50s
Old Apr 3, 2003 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by CLS
Ok, since we all have Z's, how do you do your EVIL launch. If I get my 60' down I will be in the 13's easy.
3500 rpm slip...

Just be good with controlling the clutch and throttle... and the spinning that will STILL be existant...

Then hang on... as the high 13s will be waiting for you at the end!

Evil... juuuuuust evil!
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Originally posted by GS400_PUSHER
very nice run! I am thinking about a 350 but really want the M3 but they run mid 50s
but they also are VERY plush, very good looking...

AND have a backseat, hense making them FAR more practical.
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Originally posted by arnelr21
That's a nice run. Should be a around a 14.0xxsec run. I did a 9.0xx run in my S2000 in the 1/8, Then 2 weeks later did a 14.2xx in the 1/4. You should be a little bit better on the top end.
you ran 9.0 then 2 weeks later ran 14.2 in the 1/4...what was the 1/8th on the 14.2 run...


anyway...on the Z a 9.0 should result in a 13.9** something especially with that trap....good job....p.s. i just went to my 1/8th wednesday my best that day was a 9.0 @78.** not bad concidering i had too much gas and the weather was less than ideal...
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Originally posted by typeR
you ran 9.0 then 2 weeks later ran 14.2 in the 1/4...what was the 1/8th on the 14.2 run...


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Different tracks. Irwindale and Fontana.. On the 1/4 in Fontana, my 1/8 times were btween 9.0xx and 9.2xx.
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Originally posted by Evil350z
All I need to say... is we drive 13 second cars. Period.

More so, I have nearly the HEAVIEST model you can get... minus NAV...

Enjoy... car 6406!
Not bad run. I think your a little shy from 13.9 though. No way to really tell unless you run the whole 1320. A few years back when I was nearly stock I was running 13.8's@100-101mph with a low 1.9 60' and an 8.7 1/8th mile at 79mph.
Why don't you invest in a better set of tires, such as a drag radial and practice your launch. a 2.0 60' has much to be improved on, and a softer compound tire should help you get there.
I know its comparing apples to oranges, however I've seen some guys w/ a 275/40/17" nitto drag radial pull mid 1.7 60's with a proper burnout, and experimenting w/ air pressure. ( of course this is on a mid 11 second car ) Although the best 60' I have pulled is a 1.86 with this tire.

good luck on that 13 second pass!!
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I was playing around at the track last week trying to find the best launch, but I found out the same thing as Evil - 3500 rpm launch letting the clutch take some abuse. It was raining and the track was wet so I only pulled a 2.32 60', but that method really helped out the wheel hop problems. I have been really tempted to buy a set of 16" wheels with ET Streets and see what the Z would do with some really good traction!
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Originally posted by paluka21
Not bad run. I think your a little shy from 13.9 though. No way to really tell unless you run the whole 1320.
LOOKING AT THE z'S DYNO...IT MAKES POWER JUST ABOUT IDENTICLY to my car....on the day i made my 13.794 pass i went 2.1 60'
9.061 1/8th@79.71
to a
13.944 @101.07 and im 500 lbs heavier fwd and auto he's got his 13 with me
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by paluka21
Why don't you invest in a better set of tires, such as a drag radial and practice your launch. a 2.0 60' has much to be improved on, and a softer compound tire should help you get there.
I'd be game... but the strip is more a "sure lets go thing"...

Road Racing and AutoX own me... and as I tune the car more and more for that aspect its going to get slower and slower at the strip... While a wider tire might help a launch, their added weight will kill a trap speed. Then suspension, once again just hurt the launch.

For the extremely stiff sidewalled RE040s and their "not so" sticky properties a 2.0 60ft was impessive. As for the 660 and the trap... that indicates a high 13... minus don't f up and mis a shift...

Originally posted by typeR
"9.061 1/8th@79.71 to a 13.944 @101.07 and im 500 lbs heavier fwd and auto he's got his 13 with me"
Thanks for the back up bro... Nice time in the TypeS by the way... the fastest I've see those pass was 9.6s... Must one FUNNNNNN FWD cruiser (sleeper eh???)

Like I said... I have about as heavy a Z as you can have... its a 13 second car. No prob!
Old Apr 5, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Evil350z


Thanks for the back up bro... Nice time in the TypeS by the way... the fastest I've see those pass was 9.6s... Must one FUNNNNNN FWD cruiser (sleeper eh???)

Like I said... I have about as heavy a Z as you can have... its a 13 second car. No prob!
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by typeR
LOOKING AT THE z'S DYNO...IT MAKES POWER JUST ABOUT IDENTICLY to my car....on the day i made my 13.794 pass i went 2.1 60'
9.061 1/8th@79.71
to a
13.944 @101.07 and im 500 lbs heavier fwd and auto he's got his 13 with me
typer,

Fact of the matter is, that dyno numbers are just that, dyno numbers. There are many factors that come into play with this, as you cannot just say that type "A" car that makes 250rwhp will run identical to type "B" car that makes 250rwhp. Alot has to do with gearing of the car, as well as WHERE in the rpm range you make power, or torque..Torque is going to get you moving more so than hp. If you are making more torque and hp lower in the rpm range than a friends car who has the same amount of peak hp and torque that your car has, you will be faster..fact. It also has to do with how much of a flat torque curve an engine produces, and low end torque is more important than low end hp in my opinion.
so by you saying that his dyno numbers are identical to yours, we would have to see a dyno graph of the entire curve, not just peak numbers..make sense?
It also has to do with how well you put the power to the pavement, and shifing. Your auto is more consistent and it is a fact with RWD vehicles ( yes I know yours is fwd ) that an automatic will eat up more loss than a manual, it is about a 5-8% difference between an auto vs manual in rwd cars.. just a rule of thumb. So someone with an auto can make 400rwhp, and a manual 5 speed or 6 speed make 415rwhp, yet they will still be around the same at the crank due to drivetrain loss.
Too many factors to say that his dyno numbers are about the same as yours, so he should run right with you! your 1.5mph higher could be found in his car w/ more aggressive driving as well.
later
Dan

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Originally posted by paluka21
typer,

Fact of the matter is, that dyno numbers are just that, dyno numbers. There are many factors that come into play with this, as you cannot just say that type "A" car that makes 250rwhp will run identical to type "B" car that makes 250rwhp. Alot has to do with gearing of the car, as well as WHERE in the rpm range you make power, or torque..Torque is going to get you moving more so than hp. If you are making more torque and hp lower in the rpm range than a friends car who has the same amount of peak hp and torque that your car has, you will be faster..fact. It also has to do with how much of a flat torque curve an engine produces, and low end torque is more important than low end hp in my opinion.
so by you saying that his dyno numbers are identical to yours, we would have to see a dyno graph of the entire curve, not just peak numbers..make sense?
It also has to do with how well you put the power to the pavement, and shifing. Your auto is more consistent and it is a fact with RWD vehicles ( yes I know yours is fwd ) that an automatic will eat up more loss than a manual, it is about a 5-8% difference between an auto vs manual in rwd cars.. just a rule of thumb. So someone with an auto can make 400rwhp, and a manual 5 speed or 6 speed make 415rwhp, yet they will still be around the same at the crank due to drivetrain loss.
Too many factors to say that his dyno numbers are about the same as yours, so he should run right with you! your 1.5mph higher could be found in his car w/ more aggressive driving as well.
later
Dan
wow i had to read all that and you only had to read this...
Originally posted by typeR
LOOKING AT THE z'S DYNO...
i never said numbers....
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comparing this:






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