Long Island ,

I think all dealers have their low end cars and thier "flagships."

I would own a low end Nissan before I owned a low end Dodge just for the sake of longevity and repair expenses down the road.

This is the first year for the Z, expect this flagship car to make more HP in the next year or two as do all new sports cars.

When you compare the bang for buck with the Z flagship compared to other flagships I think Nissan did pretty good.

The Corvette is way over priced and puts down just slightly more than the 20k cheaper Camaro SS (like 15 HP) not talking about the Z06 which is 7-k+ Chevy made a HUGE mistake by dropping the Camaro and not announcing a replacement (like Pontiac is replacing the Trans Am with the GTO.) And BMW? Fughetaboutit!

Looks aside,

If the same driver drove the Z at the track and Auto X the Z would win EVERY time (stock Vs. stock) but LOOKS are a major issue aren't they?

 

I agree but I guess I am upset that the Z and the Max are that close in hp. However, you are correct that there are other cars eg BMW's that are overpriced.

 

my altima will be in the 13's tonight..

 

You are a Crack Smoka. There is not much market for things like the SRT4. We all talk about it, but how many people are actually going to buy it? The market is young people, mainly high school and real early 20s. I see the sales being bad on this thing, because parents don't want to buy this for their kids. Nissan would be idiotic to try and compete. The majority of the public just wants transportation. Why would Nissan make a car that competes with the Z in performance for almost half the price?

Try thinking for a change.

 

I feel bad if you're almost 30 and acting like you're a teenager. Why would I want a car that is about the same performance in a straight line as my Z, but does everything else worse, and looks like crap? No thanks.

As far as pushing to make the Z faster, it will come at a cost, and then the Z will be more expensive than Nissan wants. You think they can just hit the performance button on the production line, but it comes at a cost. You don't understand basic car lineup strategy. If you make the Nissan Sentra to powerful you confuse your buyers with a lineup that doesn't make sense. Nissan's lineup is pretty consistent and properly balanced I feel, and this is why Nissan is doing well. My only thing is I do agree the Z should have about 25-50 more HP, but a factory turbo or supercharger is just going to drive that price up.

What is this cult following for 91-94 Sentras? Aren't those total econobox looking cars with small 4 cylinders? I am being serious, I have never heard of any potential for these cars, nor have I ever seen a fast one.

 

Well why did they make the Max, performance wise so close to the Z then? Besides the obvious the max can hold its own with the Z. Everyone says so. I think the crack smoka (PS I still want some!) is stating that if the altima and max can get dramatic upgrades in performance over the last couple of years, why does it seem like they sort of half arsed it with the Sentra SER's and Z? Don't get me wrong I love the Z! I just want a little more performance, hp, that will seperate the max and altima with the Z.

PS the SER's have a lot of followers and I have seen turbo SER's 91-93 pushing low 13's and high 12's!!!!

 

cult followings dont enhance sales much.
nissan has a great cult following for several cars
Z car
510
SE-R
yet nissan would have died if not for renault

 

Crack Smoker don't start dissing my Touring Model or you will wish you were on crack for real when I hit you with my replies.

And that's real talk. I was going along till you involved my Model *I* chose so now what?

Get your Neon or Sentra and line up with me bud.

True....

Sentra is known as an economy commuter car in my town. I have NEVER had one fly by me yet LOL.

The Z is the shizzle my wizzle.

What part of that can't you grasp?

Do a side by side pic of the Sentra the Max and the Z and then that should speak for itself.

I will still line up with Maxima's or Sentra's and Neon's (puke engines IMHO) so take another hit and then reply with some more whack crack type response.

Sincerely,

A Z Lover on a Z Forum

 

maybe hes the owner trolling again

 

yeah, sounds impressive but at the same time I find it funny.

Damian 2003 350z Enthusiast SS 5sp
2003 Dodge Ram 2500

 

Hmmmmmmmm?

This thread has gone waaaaay "OFF TOPIC" and is degenerating rapidly!!!
Let's give it a rest guys.

 

there was no ownage just a jealous man who talked down on several people better off then him
i compared you to him cause you attacked someone in the exact same way

 

yeah, enough of the pissing contests.

Damian 2003 350z Enthusiast SS 5sp
2003 Dodge Ram 2500

 

Well maybe not last night

After sitting there for about 2 hours before I ran with a steady 20 mph head wind along with missing 3rd real bad made for a 14.5 @ 96.

my cars best run's:
14.251 @ 99 with intake
14.150 @ 99 with I/E
14.148 @ 99 with I/E & Y-pipe

All with 2.2x 60 footer's

seems like its not responding...

Full interior minus jack and spare

 

63 degrees
64% relitive humitity
29.56 baro

I seen a S600 V12 w/ a renntech chip run a 12.4 @ 117 with the traction control clicking on an off for about 1/4 of the track with a baby seat in the back. Week before he ran a 11.9x w/ a 1.8 60 footer.

now thats a fast as 4-door (4,400lbs)

 

My best is a 13.77 @ 101..4 with a 2.052 60ft and a pretty mean headwind. My first run ever I went 13.805 @ 101.2 with a 2.12 60ft. My 4rd and worst run ever in my Z was a 13.87 @ 100.2 with a 2.09 60ft. All these runs were with a K&N drop in and a grounding kit, and this was my first time to the track with my car.