350z vs. 3000 GT VR4
From a stop, I played catch up but eventually passed him everytime. From a roll, I killed him.
Yes-- he has AWD.
Oh yeah, and that is my exhaust that you hear
I love how the stillen Exhaust sounds!
Yes-- he has AWD.
Oh yeah, and that is my exhaust that you hear
I love how the stillen Exhaust sounds!
Last edited by Oh4aZ; Jun 17, 2003 at 04:37 PM.
To, Oh4aZ
Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
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Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
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I think a 350Z has a pretty good chance against a VR4, the AWD will help the VR4 out of the hole but kill it on top end, plus the Z has a nice weight advantage compared to the 3000GT. I raced a 3000GT VR4 at the track and had very similar results.
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Originally posted by n3z50
To, Oh4aZ
Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
Greedy Exhaust
HKS intake
Coming Soon
350Z (TRACK)
DB
To, Oh4aZ
Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
Greedy Exhaust
HKS intake
Coming Soon
350Z (TRACK)
DB
Last edited by Oh4aZ; Jun 18, 2003 at 06:58 AM.
Originally posted by n3z50
To, Oh4aZ
Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
Greedy Exhaust
HKS intake
Coming Soon
350Z (TRACK)
DB
To, Oh4aZ
Dude no, offence but are you positive that you were racing a vr-4 and not a 95 /base or SL with 225hp. & i am sure that 3000gt was bone stock.
Because after seeing that video, i hightly doubt that you were racing with a vr-4, But did seems like that was a non turbo normal aspired fwd.
Allthough i do understand that your Z is Not stock, however a 95 3000gt vr-4 regardless it's weight is pushing 320hp with only 6spd manual and offcourse vr-4 as Awd standard.
To be honest with all the mods that you got, a stock vr-4 still either can smoke you, or perhaps atleast hang with you side by side. But, then again as they say, anything is possible @ street racing, or maybe your buddies 3k has a really bad turbo. But, anyways nice run.
99/3000GT SL
Greedy Exhaust
HKS intake
Coming Soon
350Z (TRACK)
DB
The 0-60 for the VR4 is 5.5s, so it isn't faster than the stock Z:
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1999/mit....6.Mitsubishi*
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1999/mit....6.Mitsubishi*
Originally posted by BrunoMDeus
The 0-60 for the VR4 is 5.5s, so it isn't faster than the stock Z:
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1999/mit....6.Mitsubishi*
The 0-60 for the VR4 is 5.5s, so it isn't faster than the stock Z:
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1999/mit....6.Mitsubishi*
and it wasnt a 0-60 race where awd has advantage.
The 0-60 times (real-world) for the 2nd and 3rd generation VR-4s are around 5 seconds flat on AVERAGE. Quarter mile times are in the mid to high 13s on AVERAGE.
I even acheived a 13.9 in a first generation '92 VR-4 and at 100 mph. A Z might nudge ahead by the end of the quarter mile, but from a stop, the VR-4 would have a serious advantage. This is only against the older first generation VR-4s. The later models had more aggressive gearing and 20 more hp at the crank. Someone who knows how to drive a VR-4 should do very well.
Still, it was very easy to get a bit more power out of that car. I ran into the 12s with hardly any work at all and that would have put some serious hurting on my Z.
I even acheived a 13.9 in a first generation '92 VR-4 and at 100 mph. A Z might nudge ahead by the end of the quarter mile, but from a stop, the VR-4 would have a serious advantage. This is only against the older first generation VR-4s. The later models had more aggressive gearing and 20 more hp at the crank. Someone who knows how to drive a VR-4 should do very well.
Still, it was very easy to get a bit more power out of that car. I ran into the 12s with hardly any work at all and that would have put some serious hurting on my Z.
I've never driven or raced a VR4, so i don't know its performance #s and that's why i searched online and found that site.
In the real world, like everyone likes to say it, the numbers might be a little off, but what i was trying to say is that it looks like they're pretty similar cars in terms of performance (0-60 and 1/4 mile).
In the real world, like everyone likes to say it, the numbers might be a little off, but what i was trying to say is that it looks like they're pretty similar cars in terms of performance (0-60 and 1/4 mile).
Even with a great driver, the only cars I know that can pull on a stock VR4 from a roll like that is a Camaro SS, WS6 or a Supra TT. I doubt that your car even with the little mods you have can run with those cars. I may be wrong but the 350Z I drove was nowhere as fast as the VR4 I used to have. What was the run from anyway? 40-100, etc?
That looks about right. VR4's are slugs from a roll, at least compared to their 1/4 mile times. The stock turbos run out of breath up top. Pretty much any RWD or FWD car on street tires will be playing catch-up against a properly launched 3S from a dig though.
That video looks about right to me, the VR4 I had would pull hard out the hole but sometimes get rilled in at the top of 4.The Vr4 runs good for a 3800lb car,but the power to weight ratio goes to the z
Agreed Runn and Stock LT1, the 9B's run out of breath right around 70mph. I have not decided whether I want to modify my G35C but if those few mods increase its' performance that well then I might consider it.
Originally posted by Marc's R/T
Even with a great driver, the only cars I know that can pull on a stock VR4 from a roll like that is a Camaro SS, WS6 or a Supra TT. I doubt that your car even with the little mods you have can run with those cars. I may be wrong but the 350Z I drove was nowhere as fast as the VR4 I used to have. What was the run from anyway? 40-100, etc?
Even with a great driver, the only cars I know that can pull on a stock VR4 from a roll like that is a Camaro SS, WS6 or a Supra TT. I doubt that your car even with the little mods you have can run with those cars. I may be wrong but the 350Z I drove was nowhere as fast as the VR4 I used to have. What was the run from anyway? 40-100, etc?
Originally posted by Oh4aZ
We actually raced 6 times. 3 from a stop and 3 from a 10 roll. Every time from a stop, he would get me off the line, then I would pass him about 80. From a 10 roll, I immediately got the jump on him every time and finish by about 2-3 car lengths.
We actually raced 6 times. 3 from a stop and 3 from a 10 roll. Every time from a stop, he would get me off the line, then I would pass him about 80. From a 10 roll, I immediately got the jump on him every time and finish by about 2-3 car lengths.
I bet he shifted early. I've owned both cars and I sincerely believe that a stock VR-4 in good shape and with a good driver will still be ahead of a Z even above 100 mph. That's coming from personal experience with both cars...




