NA Build Inside....Soup to Nuts :)
07-10-2007, 04:17 PM
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because it's alot easier for them to convert the car to cable drive TB han trying to reverse engineer a DBW setup from another car
Personally, I'd rather spend the time with the $500 thottle body trying to get the DBW to work vs a $6k ITB setup
Personally, I'd rather spend the time with the $500 thottle body trying to get the DBW to work vs a $6k ITB setup
07-10-2007, 04:45 PM
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True. But if I (or anyone else) were to spend 6K on an ITB kit designed for a car that has DBW, I would expect it to include DBW for all 6 throttle bodies lol. Oh they also have a 100mm throttle body that works with DBW.
07-10-2007, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nismo 350z
True. But if I (or anyone else) were to spend 6K on an ITB kit designed for a car that has DBW, I would expect it to include DBW for all 6 throttle bodies lol. Oh they also have a 100mm throttle body that works with DBW.
07-10-2007, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
aha....but we're not talking about Top Ramen, we're talking about Top Secret...you're lucky the throttle bodies are not an alacarte/mandatory option lol
07-10-2007, 05:58 PM
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ITB's similar to what the nsx guys use in japan would net big gains with this motor setup, especially with a more radical cam/comp ratio setup.
Im waiting for the day i can spend my money on a 350-400whp n/a setup with itb's, 12:1ish comp ratio and super agressive 272+ cams.
Pipe dream i know...
Great build btw, right up my alley!
Im waiting for the day i can spend my money on a 350-400whp n/a setup with itb's, 12:1ish comp ratio and super agressive 272+ cams.
Pipe dream i know...
Great build btw, right up my alley!
07-10-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by __jb
I wonder if there's a preferred sequence to these mods? Maybe the 3" MAF doesn't help unless you've all ready got headers, HFC's and cams...
The 3" MAF does seem like a trick piece, though...
The 3" MAF does seem like a trick piece, though...
Originally Posted by miamimax96
....and means nothing without tuning. A larger MAF housing REQUIRES tuning (WOT and part-throttle as well) as it will make the AFR very lean. Not a bolt-in and go mod. Takes time to dial it in. But once dialed in, it's a legit mod. Good for ~8-10WHP on VQ35 maximas with bolt-ons.
I'm currently trying to decide between UpRev's Osiris and a UTEC. I think Osiris has merit for NA mods... especially once they come out with the user-tunable module so Tuners can tune with it.
07-11-2007, 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LG_z33
ITB's similar to what the nsx guys use in japan would net big gains with this motor setup, especially with a more radical cam/comp ratio setup.
Im waiting for the day i can spend my money on a 350-400whp n/a setup with itb's, 12:1ish comp ratio and super agressive 272+ cams.
Pipe dream i know...
Great build btw, right up my alley!
Im waiting for the day i can spend my money on a 350-400whp n/a setup with itb's, 12:1ish comp ratio and super agressive 272+ cams.
Pipe dream i know...
Great build btw, right up my alley!
ITB's can be great...but it varies from motor to motor - they are not a "cure all" for automatic hp on every setup
350 whp is the upper limit of what this motor will do with a 3.5 liter bottom end...regardless of what cams you choose or the CR.
I do have high res pics...I'll post them later this week
I've had alot of people ask me about the valvecovers and manifold
Thinking about beginning to offer it to people, so stay tuned!
07-11-2007, 04:43 AM
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what makes you so sure?
ITB's can be great...but it varies from motor to motor - they are not a "cure all" for automatic hp on every setup
350 whp is the upper limit of what this motor will do with a 3.5 liter bottom end...regardless of what cams you choose or the CR.
I do have high res pics...I'll post them later this week
I've had alot of people ask me about the valvecovers and manifold Thinking about beginning to offer it to people, so stay tuned!
ITB's can be great...but it varies from motor to motor - they are not a "cure all" for automatic hp on every setup
350 whp is the upper limit of what this motor will do with a 3.5 liter bottom end...regardless of what cams you choose or the CR.
I do have high res pics...I'll post them later this week
I've had alot of people ask me about the valvecovers and manifold
Thinking about beginning to offer it to people, so stay tuned!Also I think it will come with due time. The car is 4+ years old. I think we are doing good with advancements
Adam would you say this setup is DDrivable? Could you let it sit for a short week? Then start her up and drive?
Thanks again for all your efforts with the NA.
Chris
07-11-2007, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 1cockyZ
I checked your site did not find the 75mm maf yet. I was wondering if you know the specs on the nismo valve springs. I was also wondering if you were going to do a cnc trace of your heads to sell to public. check out m2 in nj.
Specs on the springs - NISMO does not give the spring tension as far as I know, but it would not surprise me if they are the same as Supertech singles. The NISMO springs are rated to a max lift of 11.0, and NISMO told me (and my engine builder confirmed) that there are no issues revving past 8500 if I wanted. But since the tach only goes to 8k, not much point
As far as the CNC trace...absolutely not
Perhaps we'll sell this all as a package at some point, but we're not rushing to, and frankly, I don't think there is much of a market for it (of people who would seriously pay to have it done). As far as using M2, I am sure they do great work, and I've certainly heard of them before, but I believe in sticking with those who have proven themselves, to me...and that's what my builder has done everytime we bring him something. I have no reason to change to someone else.
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07-11-2007, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FastZ33
303whp is pretty good, but i just wish after doin SO much work to it, u can make at least 350
It essentially boils down to roughly 100 hp more at the crank than the motor came with stock. No matter what car you own, it is not easy to get 100 hp NA additional out of a car on the cheap.Is 350 doable at the wheels? Perhaps..but would take a far more aggressive cam package, long tube headers - and essentially render the car (IMHO) less of a complete package than I want to own.
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