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Old May 29, 2009 | 06:04 AM
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Have this installed, know someone..etc.. is it good/bad how much power is gained etc.

Im in the market for a Z been on the fence 350 or 370 but my mind is mostly made up to go with an '08 350(provided I can find one I like)..leaning towards a Nismo..

I have been watching ebay, and auto trader..found quite a few, need to call the dealers to check availability. However I did notice not too many "Track" editions for sale..anyway..would like to get more power out of the 350z. Found Cobbtuning..and interested to know real world results impressions..

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Old May 29, 2009 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Toasterflyer
Have this installed, know someone..etc.. is it good/bad how much power is gained etc.

Im in the market for a Z been on the fence 350 or 370 but my mind is mostly made up to go with an '08 350(provided I can find one I like)..leaning towards a Nismo..

I have been watching ebay, and auto trader..found quite a few, need to call the dealers to check availability. However I did notice not too many "Track" editions for sale..anyway..would like to get more power out of the 350z. Found Cobbtuning..and interested to know real world results impressions..

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I have a friend that has it on a si and it flys...works great.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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Sweet ..nice to know.. So are there any drawbacks..??

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I have a friend that has it on a si and it flys...works great.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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the drawback is........like most n/a set-ups the power to $ isn't great on the z's. (at least on z33's) i have an a/p on mine, but also have hedders, intake, hfc's, hks exhaust, 75 shot wet-kit, plenum spacer, gounding kit and catch can. the gains were decent with the mods, but it seems with most z33's you reach a point with n/a mods on them that they start to lose power because the ecu tries to correct for the mods abd ends up over compensating in certain areas of the curve. that's when the a/p comes in. utec does alot of the same features, but the ap is nicer in that you can clear codes, do the live monitoring (saving you $ on gauges) and cobb is now working on end user software tunning. as of now, you can log your live data and email it to cobb where they will build you map(s) and email them to you, you download them to the ap and can then run them and see some significant gains. with no n2o mine picked up 17whp with the new tune from cobb. the pre-loaded maps will give you a very modest gain (2-7whp), so definately get the tune. in the end, it'll cost as much as a utec without a tune, but you have a ton of more options and it is very user friendly. i've been happy with it. but, building an n/a z33 and expecting big hp/tq numbers is a very, very pricey build and requires twice the $ for 1/4 of the gains as going f/i. my 07 has the powerlab set-up on it and i love it. but i also like the reliability of the n/a '05 i have as well. just depends on what's more important to you i suppose. the cobb CAN be used just like a utec in building maps if you end up going f/i down the road. the utec holds 3 maps (i believe), while the ap can hold in indefinate amount as well as give you some anti-theft maps as well. nice unit for the $.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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alot of subie guys use them, get nothing but recommendations for it.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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1. Why would you get a tune first?

2. Cobb sucks. Note all of the F/S threads.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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i have it its ok lost 1 hp but gained like 10tq it spread power from 1800rpm to almost 7000rpm
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Rich where in NY?

For the cost of a Cobb tuner it would be wiser to have it Dyno tuned with Uprev for true gains.
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Thanks guys..Im soo NEW at this..can ya tell all abbreviations etc..make it hard to understand.
Im about an hour north(along the Hudson River) of NYC.

Cobb is just one I saw recently ..someone claimed a 50hp gain..just wondering. What the options are to get a round 330hp out of a '08
350z...without getting crazy mods and $$$ :-).

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Rich where in NY?

For the cost of a Cobb tuner it would be wiser to have it Dyno tuned with Uprev for true gains.
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Originally Posted by Demonbfg
I have a friend that has it on a si and it flys...works great.
you drive a mustang, how do you know what fast feels like

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Originally Posted by Toasterflyer
Thanks guys..Im soo NEW at this..can ya tell all abbreviations etc..make it hard to understand.
Im about an hour north(along the Hudson River) of NYC.

Cobb is just one I saw recently ..someone claimed a 50hp gain..just wondering. What the options are to get a round 330hp out of a '08
350z...without getting crazy mods and $$$ :-).

Thank everyone for the info.

Rich
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thats a good one. what are your future mods?
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by NISMO_558
you drive a mustang, how do you know what fast feels like
Maybe over forty years of racing on two wheels and four among other things and that little mustang rolls pretty well stock and it will roll even better later on...and remember i DID have a nismo.
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Old May 29, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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I was just going by what I read on an Ebay auction for a Nismo..with Cobbtuning..states in the auction HP is 350-360?? Hence my orig.
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Thats why Im here for advice from people who know..because I dont (yet)

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thats a good one. what are your future mods?
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:30 AM
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Do not base your decision on Cobb from feedback relating to other cars. Cobb for Subaru, Mitsu, etc. is different than the Z. I owned AP when I had my WRX and it was decent. BUT, that was an FI car. Gains on factory turbos tend to be a lot higher than what you can gain on an NA motor. From what I read here and what Cobb advertises, gains are pretty small for the money you pay. I think you would be better of with Uprev's solution for about the same price. I would suggest a UTEC but you admitted to knowing little about this stuff so UTEC is probably not for you unless you have someone tune it. UTEC will be a lot more flexible than Cobb: custom tune vs. OTS map.

If you have mod money burning a hole in your pocket and you are going to purchase a Z, I suggest focusing on other areas first that will be a lot more rewarding for the money. I know that power mods are something that everybody goes after first but you really should consider holding off until you actually buy the car, drive it for some time and then make a decision on what you'd like to improve. My experience has been that the stock Z really needs help in traction dept. and I own a DE engine. If you go with an HR motor, I can imagine that will hold even more true. Consider setting aside that cash for good tires instead. All the power in the engine will not help you if you can't put it down effectively. I don't want to push you in any direction. I just want to point out things you may not have considered given the fact you don't own the car yet. I'd wait, drive it and then start this mod consideration process.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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I've used the Cobb AP on my STi for 3 years now. Love it. Best 695.00 I could have spent on that car. However, as mentioned before- thats with FI.

Looking at what it does for the Z- As mentioned earlier, I believe there are better routes to go. Hence, why I didn't pull the trigger once it was released. Its still a very versatile and useful piece of equipment for the Z, your just not going to get big gains with just the AP on a NA engine.
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Old May 30, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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Thanks for the reply..yes I have considered wheels tires, air intake as firsts on my list..as well as exhaust..etc.
I just happened on an Ebay auction for a black Nismo with cobb tuning and the owner stated the HP being 350..which I thought was nice, but not really sure possible...hence me posting on here to find out what the deal and options were in that dept.

If you do a quick ebay search you will find the auction..it ends today in a couple of hours I think.

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Originally Posted by Ziggyrama
Do not base your decision on Cobb from feedback relating to other cars. Cobb for Subaru, Mitsu, etc. is different than the Z. I owned AP when I had my WRX and it was decent. BUT, that was an FI car. Gains on factory turbos tend to be a lot higher than what you can gain on an NA motor. From what I read here and what Cobb advertises, gains are pretty small for the money you pay. I think you would be better of with Uprev's solution for about the same price. I would suggest a UTEC but you admitted to knowing little about this stuff so UTEC is probably not for you unless you have someone tune it. UTEC will be a lot more flexible than Cobb: custom tune vs. OTS map.

If you have mod money burning a hole in your pocket and you are going to purchase a Z, I suggest focusing on other areas first that will be a lot more rewarding for the money. I know that power mods are something that everybody goes after first but you really should consider holding off until you actually buy the car, drive it for some time and then make a decision on what you'd like to improve. My experience has been that the stock Z really needs help in traction dept. and I own a DE engine. If you go with an HR motor, I can imagine that will hold even more true. Consider setting aside that cash for good tires instead. All the power in the engine will not help you if you can't put it down effectively. I don't want to push you in any direction. I just want to point out things you may not have considered given the fact you don't own the car yet. I'd wait, drive it and then start this mod consideration process.
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Originally Posted by shvd64cdy
the drawback is........like most n/a set-ups the power to $ isn't great on the z's. (at least on z33's)
why all the time this story? not bashing on you, but in general.
more power cost money. period.
a WELL DONE n/a Z could gain 30/40 safe whp to the wheel for less than 5 grand. and you can drive that engine all day long without reliability issue.

to say the same with a TT setup you start talking at about 20 grand +++ just to make it reliable, and for reliable I mean you go to a road course, you drive the **** off your car and you drive back home, and that has to happen several times before you blow the engine, the clutch, the diff or some other part.
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Originally Posted by [MD]3FiFtY
1. Why would you get a tune first?

2. Cobb sucks. Note all of the F/S threads.
What would you recommend? utec? unichip? Cobb is great and hell of alot better than uprev and technosquare flashes.

http://g35driver.com/forums/tuner-dy...uner-tune.html
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I owned a A/P on my 06' STI and the power gains were great. But I haven't heard any great reviews for the 350. I strongly suggest getting a Revup tune instead.
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Originally Posted by Ataru074
why all the time this story? not bashing on you, but in general.
more power cost money. period.
a WELL DONE n/a Z could gain 30/40 safe whp to the wheel for less than 5 grand. and you can drive that engine all day long without reliability issue.

to say the same with a TT setup you start talking at about 20 grand +++ just to make it reliable, and for reliable I mean you go to a road course, you drive the **** off your car and you drive back home, and that has to happen several times before you blow the engine, the clutch, the diff or some other part.
Case in point. 30-40 ponies for 5 grand is very expensive.
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