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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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I have always liked the idea of having Nitrous but do not want to compromise reliability. I have so far not heard of anyone blowing the VQ by spraying so I am considering it.

To help sway me, please answer these questions:

1. Has anyone on this forum blwn an engine from using minor boltons and N20?

2. what is the most I can juice and still be able to count on not killing the motor? 25 shot 50 shot 100 shot?

3. How often can I use N20 and not have to worryabout overdoing it. Once a day, once a week?

4. Anthing I should do while spraying to keep the engine from going to lean and puking?

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Old Mar 26, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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It all depends on how good your setup is.
I have had very good experiences with nitrous and bad ones with turbos (bot on a celica not the Z)
Do a lot of reading, understand how n2o works and what you need to run safe.
Nitrous is defefintely not a street application, you never should spray longer than 20 sec at a time. It's for drag racing at the track only.

One of the things I love about nitrous vs turbos is that you only spray when you need to and so the wear and tear on your engine is less and more controlled whereas a turbo is on 24/7
people on here have been running 100 shots for quite a while without issues, but again they are using all the safety features such as tps, window switches, colder plugs, high octane gas and so forth.
I have to say the only thing I always hated about nitrous is having to fill up the bottle
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 02:25 AM
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Thanks for the reply.

2 more questions.

1. Will switching to colder plugs take away from Normally aspirated performance?

2. I know I should do a search but what are TPS and window switches. (I dont want to hear Tire Pressure Sensor from any of you smart asses out there !


I dont intend to track or compete. When some Yuppy pulls up in a 911 turbo I want to be able to wipe the smug grin off his face at a moments notice. I am thinking about a 75 shot with a remote bottle opener. That, in addition to all the other NA mods. So far I have UR pulley, Borla TD, JWT intake + AA plenum spacer. I am still planning on a flywheel, Headers, HF cats and maybe shorter gears.
Do ya think N20 will pair up well with these mods?

thanks for your help!!

Originally Posted by mrtomcat
It all depends on how good your setup is.
I have had very good experiences with nitrous and bad ones with turbos (bot on a celica not the Z)
Do a lot of reading, understand how n2o works and what you need to run safe.
Nitrous is defefintely not a street application, you never should spray longer than 20 sec at a time. It's for drag racing at the track only.

One of the things I love about nitrous vs turbos is that you only spray when you need to and so the wear and tear on your engine is less and more controlled whereas a turbo is on 24/7
people on here have been running 100 shots for quite a while without issues, but again they are using all the safety features such as tps, window switches, colder plugs, high octane gas and so forth.
I have to say the only thing I always hated about nitrous is having to fill up the bottle
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by joust75
Thanks for the reply.

2 more questions.

1. Will switching to colder plugs take away from Normally aspirated performance?

2. I know I should do a search but what are TPS and window switches. (I dont want to hear Tire Pressure Sensor from any of you smart asses out there !


I dont intend to track or compete. When some Yuppy pulls up in a 911 turbo I want to be able to wipe the smug grin off his face at a moments notice. I am thinking about a 75 shot with a remote bottle opener. That, in addition to all the other NA mods. So far I have UR pulley, Borla TD, JWT intake + AA plenum spacer. I am still planning on a flywheel, Headers, HF cats and maybe shorter gears.
Do ya think N20 will pair up well with these mods?

thanks for your help!!
1 step colder plugs will not hurt NA Performance, some say it even helps out a little.
The switches are saftey devices that only allow your system to spray when the time is right. Do a search there's tons of threads on this.

BTW, your not gonna go around killing 911 turbos with a 75 shot. You might suprise them a little by keeping up but smoking them is just not gonna happen. You will also need to take the underdrive pulley off in order to spray. I'm working right now on getting a lightwieght pulley made that has no underdrive.
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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In additio nitrous is not touch and go... you need to get the bottle pressure up to 1050 psi before you can effectively spray. So even with a remote opener you might have to wait a few minutes. So unless you politely ask the 911 owner to wait while you do "strectches" to get ready for your race you're out of luck
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Old Mar 27, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by joust75
..... maybe shorter gears.
Do ya think N20 will pair up well with these mods?

thanks for your help!!
Not speaking from experience or anything, but if you have shorter gears, you'll probably have to be shifting fast as hell!!!(depending if you're manually spraying or using a full throttle sensor, of course) I'd look into getting longer gears, and see what kind of effect that might have on the spraying...Just an idea...

BTW: Don't mean to threadjack, but about how much does a full, say NX, nitrous kit with all the safety stuff minus install and colder plugs cost? Any links to where everyone has bought theirs?

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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZU L8R
1 step colder plugs will not hurt NA Performance, some say it even helps out a little.
The switches are saftey devices that only allow your system to spray when the time is right. Do a search there's tons of threads on this.

BTW, your not gonna go around killing 911 turbos with a 75 shot. You might suprise them a little by keeping up but smoking them is just not gonna happen. You will also need to take the underdrive pulley off in order to spray. I'm working right now on getting a lightwieght pulley made that has no underdrive.

Yeah Max HAx lost power by adding a UR underdrive pulley in a ddition to N20. Why the hell is this ? I dont see the relationship between the juice and an underdrive pulley.Has anyone figured out the prob??
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
you need to get the bottle pressure up to 1050 psi before you can effectively spray.
Get a bottle heater to solve this problem! And I ran mine on the street all the time. 100 shot + 19s = no traction!
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by joust75
Yeah Max HAx lost power by adding a UR underdrive pulley in a ddition to N20. Why the hell is this ? I dont see the relationship between the juice and an underdrive pulley.Has anyone figured out the prob??
It wasnt because of the pulley, in the end he figured out some plugs had been fouled. The underdrive pulley has nothing to do with the N20...
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Originally Posted by mrtomcat
In additio nitrous is not touch and go... you need to get the bottle pressure up to 1050 psi before you can effectively spray. So even with a remote opener you might have to wait a few minutes. So unless you politely ask the 911 owner to wait while you do "strectches" to get ready for your race you're out of luck
LMFAO, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA , this post made bust out laughing. HAHAHAHA! Thanks for that one . I just got a picture in my head of him standing on one leg and stretching the other thigh. LOL Great stuff I needed that today
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TruBluZ
Get a bottle heater to solve this problem! And I ran mine on the street all the time. 100 shot + 19s = no traction!
A bottle heater is an absolute must

It takes a bottle heater about 20 minutes to get the bottle to the right pressure and it only works if the bottle is open. So unless you're in a hot environment you're not going to be at 1050 psi with a click of a button
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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purge is good, too. that first second of just air and fuel could cause a backfire.
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