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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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currently at the moment 48n, and 32 fuel. but soon should be 63n and 36fuel. i am prob going to get it tuned before i up it, and currently my car is retarded 2degrees
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by silver350tn
currently at the moment 48n, and 32 fuel. but soon should be 63n and 36fuel. i am prob going to get it tuned before i up it, and currently my car is retarded 2degrees
just going by the parts in ur sig how did u retard the timimg by 2 degrees?
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieG35
That's awesome, looks like the UTEC picked it up a ton on the motor. Nitrous numbers look good too. How much timing is pulled on the hundred shot?
Because it's a UTEC, The timing varies at different rpms
I was having a Knock issue, mostly at the shift points for the AT , so he had to do a little more with timing to get rid of the knock:

THIS IS A PARTIAL 150HP NITROUS Timing Map so you can see what's involved with timing pull and nitrous:

[22] [21] [20] [19] [18] [17] [16] [16] [16] [16]
[24.5] [23.5] [22.5] [21.5] [20.5] [19.5] [18.5] [18.5] [18.5] [18.5]
[23] [22] [21] [20] [19] [18] [17] [17] [17] [17]
[19] [18] [17] [16] [15] [14] [13] [13] [13] [13]
[17.6] [16.6] [15.6] [14.6] [13.6] [12.6] [11.6] [11.6] [11.6] [11]
[17.3] [16.3] [15.3] [14.3] [13.3] [12.3] [11.3] [11.3] [11.3] [10.7]
[18.3] [17.3] [16.3] [15.3] [14.3] [13.3] [12.3] [12.3] [12.3] [12.3]
[19] [18.5] [17.5] [16.5] [15.5] [14.5] [13.5] [11.5] [11.5] [11.5]
[20] [18.5] [17.5] [16.5] [15.5] [14.5] [13.5] [10.5] [10.5] [10.5]
[20.5] [19] [18] [17] [16] [15] [14] [11] [11] [11]
[21] [19.5] [18.5] [17.5] [16.5] [15.5] [14.5] [13.5] [13.5] [13.5]
[22] [19] [18] [17] [16] [15] [14] [14] [14] [14]
[23] [20] [19] [18] [17] [16] [15] [15] [15] [15]
[24.5] [22.5] [21.5] [20.5] [19.5] [18.5] [17.5] [17.5] [17.5] [17.5]

Please, no one should try to use these setting for their car as it may cause catastrophic failure!!
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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it was pulled with nissan hand held consult
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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anyone using meth with spray? i was advised to by forged performance since running a bigger shot than normal
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Originally Posted by silver350tn
it was pulled with nissan hand held consult
. So i can go to a nissan dealership and have them do that 4 me without getting a piggy back? And they can do it without tuning the car or dynoing it? WOW
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Old Sep 13, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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What if you do the ECU reset? Does the timing that you pulled get reset also? I'm guessing it pulls whatever amount you set at all RPMs and isn't variable.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
What if you do the ECU reset? Does the timing that you pulled get reset also? I'm guessing it pulls whatever amount you set at all RPMs and isn't variable.
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He said that he was pulling timing, yes? Sometimes, the ECU needs to be reset, for various reasons. I was inquiring as to whether the timing retardation stays in tact after the ECU reset or if timing needs to be re-adjusted after ECU reset.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
He said that he was pulling timing, yes? Sometimes, the ECU needs to be reset, for various reasons. I was inquiring as to whether the timing retardation stays in tact after the ECU reset or if timing needs to be re-adjusted after ECU reset.
yea i understood u im just confused about pulling timimg on a stock ecu. If thats the case im gonna go make friends with a nissan tech and have him do mine
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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yeah i work at a nissan dealership locally, any technician can do it, simply ask them to use the hand held consult. it only allows for changes up to 2 degrees though
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You never answered my question.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
You never answered my question.
I asked my friend who is an Infiniti tech. your question, he said most likely if the ECU was reset the timing changes would reset also, but he wasn't 100% sure. You can add 2 and subract 2 degress with the Consult II, we added 2 degress to my car a while ago, but my ECU has been reset many times since then. I guess that really doesn't give you an answer though
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So, the dealerships would do this for you for free?

I don't have a reason to reset my ECU, so this would be fine, I'd think. Unless, this also gets reset by disconnecting the battery.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
So, the dealerships would do this for you for free?

I don't have a reason to reset my ECU, so this would be fine, I'd think. Unless, this also gets reset by disconnecting the battery.
I don't know about for free, I worked at Infiniti for 5+ years, so I have "connections" to use the Consult. It really takes all of about 2 minutes to make the change, have no clue why they would charge.
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
So, the dealerships would do this for you for free?

I don't have a reason to reset my ECU, so this would be fine, I'd think. Unless, this also gets reset by disconnecting the battery.
The ECU will relearn itself after disconnecting the battery.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
So, the dealerships would do this for you for free?

I don't have a reason to reset my ECU, so this would be fine, I'd think. Unless, this also gets reset by disconnecting the battery.
see this is the confusion im under 2. Guess ill stop by the nissan dealership and talk to my buddy mechanic and have him do this 4 me. Does ur car run diff since u retard the timing when u r and r not spraying? Idk if u get that like if u get a piggy back or stand alone its tuned according to altitude, ur parts, AFR, Gas ur using and SO much more. whats ur AFR?
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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that's the beauty of the utec...one map with retarded timing for nitrous and a maxed out NA map at the flip of a switch.
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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Man this thread fcking FAILS. THought it was going to help me out but came out short. OP u suk also
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Originally Posted by silver350tn
yeah i work at a nissan dealership locally, any technician can do it, simply ask them to use the hand held consult. it only allows for changes up to 2 degrees though
Even if you get the Nissan dealer to adjust your timing 2 degrees, that's not going to do any good through out the RPM range, Especially with a 125-150 shot.
If you look at the partial UTEC timing map I posted above for a 150HP shot, you don't see anywhere where the timing is the same throughout.
The timing is ranging from 10.5 - 24.5 (Yes, I know this is not the pulled, but actual timing), so 2 degrees isn't going to be enough if you want to be safe on that shot.
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