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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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hey guys quick question....im gettin my friends zex kit from his srt4, and im also gona buy the window switch, digital psi gauge, and the nitrous switch center gauge. my question is, when i install the fuel rail adapter, where should i tap the fuel and nitrous nozzle since i have a kinetix ssv. i have an injen intake tube, but does it really matter the recommended 8-12 inch from throttle body, or can it be random, cuz i wana keep it hidden.

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Old Nov 29, 2008 | 08:56 PM
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You don't even have the names of the parts correctly. I think that means you should search a bit more before asking.

Fuel adapter can only go on one spot, assuming you have the one that most people get and not the t-tap, where you have to cut the fuel line.

I'm assuming you're talking about the nozzle/atomizer. In which case, many will say about 6" away from the TB. I personally have it much closer than that. With the SSV, it still shouldn't matter too much, but I'd worry about the back cylinders getting most of the nitrous/fuel than the front ones due to the SSV's configuration. If you do go through with this, even with the discrepancy, then you can place it anywhere as long as it's some place before the TB (from the intake side; 6"-12").
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sell that ssv and get some useful parts...like a bottle heater, opener, good quality mount etc.....and you'll make more power.
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sell that ssv and get some useful parts...like a bottle heater, opener, good quality mount etc.....and you'll make more power.
oh i forgot to mention...the bottle comes with an electric opener and the bottle warmer. sorry bout that.
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You don't even have the names of the parts correctly. I think that means you should search a bit more before asking.

Fuel adapter can only go on one spot, assuming you have the one that most people get and not the t-tap, where you have to cut the fuel line.

I'm assuming you're talking about the nozzle/atomizer. In which case, many will say about 6" away from the TB. I personally have it much closer than that. With the SSV, it still shouldn't matter too much, but I'd worry about the back cylinders getting most of the nitrous/fuel than the front ones due to the SSV's configuration. If you do go through with this, even with the discrepancy, then you can place it anywhere as long as it's some place before the TB (from the intake side; 6"-12").
please confirm what parts i have not correct?

Nitrous Pressure Gauge
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...p?idproduct=21

Nitrous Switch Center
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...p?idproduct=88

Window Switch/TPS
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=194

i know where the fuel adapter goes, which i purchased from dynotune.
http://www.dynotunenitrous.com/store...?idproduct=245

i believe i clearly stated exactly what i wanted to know from you guys, and i made sure i did my search before post, but i just needed a second opinion.
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where should i tap the fuel and nitrous nozzle since i have a kinetix ssv. i have an injen intake tube, but does it really matter the recommended 8-12 inch from throttle body, or can it be random, cuz i wana keep it hidden.
i figured the ssv setup would not be beneficial for nitrous since the 1st and 2nd cylinder may not get as much as the 5th and 6th..but many people have this setup and no complaints...so ill deal with it..thanks

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There is a spot about 5-6in from the throttle body in the "crotch" of the firewall between the flat part of the firewall and where it bows out to become the fender well, where you can place the nozzle angled up from the bottom of the car. It will be out of view. Good Luck.
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An additional suggestion...unless you care about stealth place the bottle in a way that it's convenient to remove. You can buy some basic parts that allow for a really clean install and quick tool-less removal. I can take my bottle out in about 20 seconds and I have 2 senders, 2 gauges, and a heater attached.
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An additional suggestion...unless you care about stealth place the bottle in a way that it's convenient to remove. You can buy some basic parts that allow for a really clean install and quick tool-less removal. I can take my bottle out in about 20 seconds and I have 2 senders, 2 gauges, and a heater attached.
gona do it something like this...



props to however did this, i forgot where i found these pictures but i totally give credit to them.

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Originally Posted by genegoesfast
There is a spot about 5-6in from the throttle body in the "crotch" of the firewall between the flat part of the firewall and where it bows out to become the fender well, where you can place the nozzle angled up from the bottom of the car. It will be out of view. Good Luck.
i think i know were exactly your talking bout, but ima check thoroughly when i begin this install. btw...i will also try to post a DIY thread about installing nitrous, or at least post pictures as i work on it

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I guess your term of "tap the fuel and nitrous nozzle" was what I got me. I think you meant to say "put/install the atomizer (the thing that mixes your fuel and nitrous)."

BTW, good luck on your install. The pictures you posted is either from Rico long time ago, or somebody that copied him - good install, regardless.

Definitely keep us posted on your progress and post up any thoughts and questions as you go along.
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will do, and i apologize for the mix up, yeah i should cleared up the term, but atomizer is a new one for me, i always thought it was a nozzle. i guess you learn something new everyday, but like mentioned...when i do the install will post pictures.

Thanks for the help 3hree5ive0ero and everyone else.

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Old Nov 30, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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No problem. It's always nice to have more people getting juice for the Z.

Again, don't forget about us when you do the install.
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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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just ordered parts i need and spark plugs....
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hey 3hree5ive0ero.....i was looking at your post when you showed everyone you run nitrous, and i noticed in the pictures that your bottle doesnt have a blowdown tube? is it not a big deal to have one, or maybe you have it setup somehow to were i cant see it?

please inform me on how you did that cuz mine will be sittin in same spot as yours.


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I do have a blowdown tube, but it's a hassle with that in the way when you get the bottle out. So, most of the times (and at the time when I took pictures), I don't have the blowdown tube in place. Also, my track doesn't seem to care about the blowdown tube not being there, so why bother?

My blowdown tube was never plumbed correctly, though. Others have done it properly to direct the nitrous gas out of the car if and when the disk bursts. I have something in place of a blowdown tube. I have this cap that disperses the nitrous gas in multiple direction in case the disk bursts. That way, the bottle doesn't try to fly around everywhere. I think the blowdown tube will make the bottle want to turn when the disk bursts.
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hmm i guess i gota do some extra research to the blowdown tube. im liking the cap idea, gona search into that.

i dont wana drill through the floor where im planning to mount it like you, so i was thinkin maybe running some sort of hose to a more convenient place?

any feedback would be appreciated

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The cap (http://www.streetperformance.com/par...-16166nos.html) looks like this. I don't think the description is correct, not in my opinion anyway. Even though I didn't have the blowdown tube, I did have this on, so maybe that's why I passed tech at my drag strip.

You can always route your blowdown tube (with more flexible tubes) to some other place.

Also, I had to drill a little bit to be able to mount my bottle there.
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
The cap (http://www.streetperformance.com/par...-16166nos.html) looks like this. I don't think the description is correct, not in my opinion anyway. Even though I didn't have the blowdown tube, I did have this on, so maybe that's why I passed tech at my drag strip.

You can always route your blowdown tube (with more flexible tubes) to some other place.

Also, I had to drill a little bit to be able to mount my bottle there.
sweet thanks for the insight man.

yeah i know what ya mean bout drilling but to mount the bottle. from what i recall, there isnt anything in the way of stopping me from drilling is there. i was originally worried bout like the gas tank, but its on the sides. haha this is gona be a fun project.

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hey 3hree5ive0ero....i search a thread you posted in bout jet sizes.....

His isn't tuned (he said "stock" timing). I'm surprised he's not running rich as hell with the huge fuel shot, compared to his nitrous shot.

Also, even if you upped your nitrous shot to 47, you'd still be rich. What kind of a "shot" are you trying to run?
Try these combinations:
22f-41n (50 or 75 shot depending on company)
26f-47n (75 or 100 shot)
29f-53n (100 or 125 shot)
im tuned right now for my current setup...and when i install, im gona drop my timing -2*.

my question is which jets you think would be safe and more efficient for my setup...kind of a general question but every company has different jet sizes.

zex says a 40n/21f for 75shot. i need to get new jets cuz my idiot friend lost his jets, but i was wondering even if i mix and match a lil, theres isnt a way i can harm my motor? i was thinking of gettin like a 46n/26f from zex and hope to get something between 75-100 shot? my a/f is 12.6 WOT right now, so i should be fine?

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also just to make sure....jets from dynotune would fit my zex kit, meaning ex. their 41N is same as zex's 41N?

im trying to do research as much as i can...haha sorry guys....last thing i want is a blown motor.

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