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Old 02-13-2012, 12:02 PM
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So I want you opinion. I have been debating on if i want a 150 shot or 200(+) shot. Traction would be my enemy here. remember, I am in the lighter weight s14. I have a VLSD from the j30, and stock axles. Will be investing in drag radials, not slicks. So here are my thoughts: If I use a 200 shot, what if I cant get traction in second gear and have to wait until third to spray? would it be better to drop to a 150 shot so that I can spray through one extra gear? or do you think I shouldnt have problems sticking with the 200?
Is there something else I am over looking?
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There's lots you're overlooking. Sift through the nitrous forums here and elsewhere to see what other options are available for you. Start with progressive controllers and 2-stage set ups.
Old 02-13-2012, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
There's lots you're overlooking. Sift through the nitrous forums here and elsewhere to see what other options are available for you. Start with progressive controllers and 2-stage set ups.
I have actually considered both of those options, but decided they were out of budget before this March (when I am racing my car).

and after the past few months of crawling all over this nitrous forums. I have not found anyone running over 150 shot, and not to mention, I am the only one in an S-chassis so that throws a very large variable that the z cars differ.

just looking for opinions from those of you who are more experienced than I.
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There's 2 or 3 members that have run over 150 shot here but none of them are still frequent visitors of the site, unfortunately.

150 shot all at once will put a tremendous amount of strain on your engine, so increasing it further probably wouldn't be a good idea unless you build your engine to hold up to the power/torque increase. Progressive controllers and multi-stages can help but you'll still be limited by the engine in the end.

Also, the fact that you've a S14 doesn't change anything related to nitrous if you're still using a regular rev-up from a Z. The only thing it changes is your driveability on the spray due to lighter weight.
Old 02-13-2012, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
There's 2 or 3 members that have run over 150 shot here but none of them are still frequent visitors of the site, unfortunately.

150 shot all at once will put a tremendous amount of strain on your engine, so increasing it further probably wouldn't be a good idea unless you build your engine to hold up to the power/torque increase. Progressive controllers and multi-stages can help but you'll still be limited by the engine in the end.

Also, the fact that you've a S14 doesn't change anything related to nitrous if you're still using a regular rev-up from a Z. The only thing it changes is your driveability on the spray due to lighter weight.
the engine is currently being built to handle 600hp. its sleeved, has h beam rods, and wiseco pistons.
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Oh, rofl. My mistake. 150 shot should be nothing. Still, you will fight for traction, like you said, and I'd say a progressive controller will be your best bet. They're not expensive either.
Old 02-13-2012, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Oh, rofl. My mistake. 150 shot should be nothing. Still, you will fight for traction, like you said, and I'd say a progressive controller will be your best bet. They're not expensive either.
I will look into it. I like fjo's progressive controller. It was a window switch and a throttle switch all built it. then I could sell my Zex window switch to make some money back lol

So for the race in March, I will just keep it at 150 shot. Thanks!
Old 02-13-2012, 09:00 PM
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have u ever sprayed nitrous? 150shot is alot! I started out with a 75shot and barely had traction using 275/30/20 street tires. Went up to a 105 shot and traction was nil in first gear. I am auto by the way.

I would suggest doing a dual stage shot. two shots of 75. Spraying nitrous thru all gears with traction is what u want. The 75 shot in first gear would hook sometimes and when it did, the car shot out the hole.
Old 02-13-2012, 09:53 PM
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I've run 125 shot on 275/35/19 street tires and stock street tires at the track and pulled 1.8 60's spraying at the top of 1st. It was hooking pretty good and I probably could have sprayed a little sooner. On slicks I pull 1.6's.
Old 02-15-2012, 01:34 PM
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i would stick to the 150 shot because anything more and you might get pooling, which is bad for any motor, built or not. there is a reason that 150 kinda seems to be the limit around here. if you must go above 150, i would not only suggest a progressive shot like others, but also look into a dry shot instead, to get around the pooling danger.
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With a dry shot, how's he going to get the extra fuel that's needed?

People go with a direct port set up when they do big shots.
Old 02-16-2012, 05:50 AM
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i meant direct port when i said dry shot, my bad. either way, 200 is too much for a single fogger
Old 02-16-2012, 03:08 PM
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^ I agree, but OP is trying to cut corners wherever possible to save money.
Old 02-16-2012, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
^ I agree, but OP is trying to cut corners wherever possible to save money.
to an extent lol. I will be able to get a progressive controller after I get caught up on bills. this recent project has set me back. I just wanted to know what I can get away with for the race coming up in March. but yeah, i will just stay with the 150 shot until later.
Old 02-21-2012, 01:49 PM
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are you planning on keeping the stock fuel pump for the 150 wet shot?
Old 02-21-2012, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mgrotel
are you planning on keeping the stock fuel pump for the 150 wet shot?
Never had the stock fuel pump. I upgraded to a 255 before I even did the vq swap
Old 03-13-2012, 11:40 PM
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FINALLY got some work done on the car. life can be distracting sometimes.

Bought some mil-spec plugs from Jordan Innovations to make wiring through the firewall a little cleaner and less painful.

marked all wires

Begin soldering

aaand done


DIY wiring tuck, EASY MODE




Ran it all under the intake mani. I doubled up all my extra long wires down here too to keep them out of the way

I dont know how hot it would get so I wrapped it in heat wrap.


picked up an oil catch can today



Going to work on it more tomorrow. Hope to have it done by this weekend.
Old 03-14-2012, 11:55 AM
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That looks clean. I'd love to do the wire-tuck myself but I'm afraid of something messing up (or eventually) and consequently having to undo everything then redo everything all over.
Old 03-16-2012, 12:09 AM
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ha just start soldering some spare wires for awhile. I used to be afraid of wiring until I began to solder. then i lost the fear because I knew i could fix whatever i messed up. since then I have just gotten better and more confident at doing anything with my wiring harness.
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So I got the engine in there today. I started this morning by installing my LW flywheel and stage 4 Comp Clutch.



then dropped the motor in.


took my wire tuck a little further and I am running any wires destined for the fuse box through the fender well.



When I soldered my milspec harness connectors, I had a few spots left open. So I put random (yet color coded) wires on those spots so that I can run any sort of future sensor or whatever through the milspec plugs without having to take it apart. in this pic, you can see a bunch of them poking up by the fuse box, and below is me delegating those extra wires under the floor board.



I have a lot more wiring left to do tomorrow, then just hook everything else up and should be able to fire it up!

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