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Old 02-06-2004, 10:54 AM
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anyone havin exceptionally good results sprayin on a certain set of headers over another? i have a set of borlas that i'm hestitant on installin now that everyone in the mod section is knockin on em. what do u guys think? thanks.
Old 02-06-2004, 12:42 PM
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For N20 I would go with the longest equal length headers you can get, L/T's if an option it will help your top end when you squeeze. I would love to see someone squeeze on the Crawford's!

I have Borla's they are just OK wouldn't be my first choise for N20.
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mizax in da hizouse!!! thanks . should i keep the aem on, switch to a popcharger, or go back to stock? also, i noticed a couple days ago that u have nismo misspelled in your sig logo; is that intentional?

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Pop Charger if it was me I think the tube will be cooler when I was tracking my metal CAI pipe was so hot it could burn my hand!

I used to put blue ice on my plenum during runs lol.

The AEM would pull more air but maybe run hotter either would be good. Where did you tap for the Y Adapter?

A very cool guy made my sig, if he mispelled it that is fine maybe it will add HP?

You are very observant, I sorta like it spelled that way now that I look at it lol.
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yeah, not a big deal; just thought i'd mention it. no y-adapter; i'm not sprayin yet. i agree, the plastic tube should b better. just need to find some place i can get an extra. i wanna have a spare, incase i ever wanna uninstall the juice. thanks, man.
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I hear ya, keep the tube, I sold mine for 40 bucks and regret it.

That heat shied Injen gave me for my CAI never did much but rattle. The plastic tube will keep the incomming air cooler on hot track days in my opinion and the pop charger will be less restrictive and it has a heat shield too, it is what Mossy is using for their N/A kits. Most domestic guys I know who spray have gained 2 to 3 tenths on mid to full length headers over shorties as they call them.
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i'd get the xerds, but i wanna keep my cats on. next best things would b the crawfords.
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OT but your PM is disabled, by chance are you anywhere near Erie my brother lived/died there and I keep looking for people near there for personal reasons.

Xerd's are good and will suit you well.

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thanks man.
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hey max, just outa curiosity.... when u were running 12.7's on the bottle ... what was your setup then??? how big a shot and what kind/ what mods?? street tires????
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I had MT 26X10 ET Streets with 16 inch rims at 18 lbs and an empty trunk with a 125 shot, Injen Intake, Crawford Plenum and custom exhaust that was a straight through 3 inch Magnaflow single after the cats, deleted the stock y pipe and went back from there. I have pics of that exhaust somewhere it was a dual into a single with dual tips like the LS1's sorta. Muffler was in stock location. Race weight was 3250 I think.
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Oh, and I didn't have headers then, stock manifolds, I didn't get seriuos about my exhaust till FI but I did have 3 inch pipe.
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cool .... by this summer im really looking to hit mid 12's when i get my 100 shot ..... think its possible with some sticky street tires and good bolt ons???? (plenum,borla td--test pipes,pulley,crawford headers) well ... those are the parts i am planning on getting come tax time ..... id hope i could pull some 12.6-12.5 runs in before i start upping the shot at all
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heck ya not only possible you will do it with tires!
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awesome!!!! just wanted to ask u as well .... which did u like more .... your n20 ... or your ati??? and in your personal opinion what makes this car seem to respond(power wise) better to n20 then to boost??? the only reson i see is that when u do a redline shift, your rpms drop to peak torque.... and since we all know n20 is torque in a bottle, i asume shes ****ing nasty right after a shift on the bottle
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Well I was asked this today in person by someone wanting to go from N20 to FI and I told them if I could go back in time I would stay N/A with N20.

I just like the snarl of WOT with the Intake and the smoother shifting w/o the boost that I had with N/A it is also safer IMO.

You can have an N/A daily driver with pulleys and CAI (which you can't have with N20 at least I couldn't) and just roll the redline without as much concern for A/F and guage watching while N/A and then go do 12's with a simple bottle fill and flip of the switch.

Best of both worlds, then again I also seem to want what I don't have and bore easily. I haven't tracked my FI yet because of all the hoops you have to jump through to get it perfect.

Maybe my opinion will change when my A/F is correct (was waiting on new pulley, now just a belt.)

Give me back the thousands I spent and yeah I would have stayed N/A/N20. The car seems to like it better. and less maintance and worry just get you jetting right and LEAVE IT ALONE lol. Live and learn.
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i've always thought that if the only car u have is a factory n/a car, u'd b pushin it if u boosted it. for a daily driven 350z, i'd go juice.
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Originally posted by 12SecZ
For N20 I would go with the longest equal length headers you can get, L/T's if an option it will help your top end when you squeeze. I would love to see someone squeeze on the Crawford's!

I have Borla's they are just OK wouldn't be my first choise for N20.
I'm running Crawford headers and NOS will be installed this Thursday if all goes well in Dallas.
I'll let y'all know how it goes
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sweet, yeah man keep us posted should be a great combo.
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Question for you Max...what did you do about timing etc when spraying ? I am considering adding nitrous, but I don't know how good of an idea that is with a reflash...how did you skirt the timing issue? or did you retard the timing and suffer off the bottle ?

--wes
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Originally posted by was wesman
Question for you Max...what did you do about timing etc when spraying ? I am considering adding nitrous, but I don't know how good of an idea that is with a reflash...how did you skirt the timing issue? or did you retard the timing and suffer off the bottle ?

--wes
that or something along these lines...
http://store.summitracing.com/produc...earchtype=ecat


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