Mercedes Driving event incident
08-06-2007, 04:31 PM
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Regardless it was a messed up thing to say. He was pretty much talking down to you because you are a young Asian guy. How would someone feel if they said "If you ghost ride the whip, we're gonna leave you behind," is that racist? It's just a f***ed up thing to say, i hate ignorant people out there.
08-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Just out of curiosity....saying someone is going to drift is racist? Didnt know that, maybe stereotypical, but racist I dont think so. Did you drive your Z to the event? Maybe he saw you drive up in the Z. Just a thought, but you know today people jump to the conclusion about racist for saying something stereotypical. I am not saying it was right of him to say this, but there could be a million different reasons it was said. Maybe the last guy who drove the car looked like you and drifted it...who knows.
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08-06-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by junl350z
saying something can be racist, sexist, ageist.... or just being ignorant..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist
Definition of racism....what this guy did was stereotype the OP. Not that it is okay, but it is way different then racism. That was my point.
08-06-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
What is your point? I never said saying something cant be those things.....I just dont think saying something about drifting is being racist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist
Definition of racism....what this guy did was stereotype the OP. Not that it is okay, but it is way different then racism. That was my point.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racist
Definition of racism....what this guy did was stereotype the OP. Not that it is okay, but it is way different then racism. That was my point.
08-06-2007, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by junl350z
my bad on my typo ....stereotyping based on race is a racism....
08-06-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Just out of curiosity....saying someone is going to drift is racist? Didnt know that, maybe stereotypical, but racist I dont think so. Did you drive your Z to the event? Maybe he saw you drive up in the Z. Just a thought, but you know today people jump to the conclusion about racist for saying something stereotypical. I am not saying it was right of him to say this, but there could be a million different reasons it was said. Maybe the last guy who drove the car looked like you and drifted it...who knows.
+1
I was wondering how far I would have to scroll down till somebody realized the difference between racist and stereotypes.
08-06-2007, 06:33 PM
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just my opinion, here are some example of 1st impressions that can be construed as being "racist" since it is based on race...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
08-06-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chad68
What are you talking about?? It's a fact blondes are dumb. They did a whole thing about it on 60 minutes last month!
08-06-2007, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by junl350z
just my opinion, here are some example of 1st impressions that can be construed as being "racist" since it is based on race...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
08-07-2007, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by junl350z
just my opinion, here are some example of 1st impressions that can be construed as being "racist" since it is based on race...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
- Chinese = "He must know karate"
- African American = "Likes Fried chicken..."
- Native American = "Drunk"
- Blonde chick = Dumb... - not racist but a stereotype...
08-07-2007, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Those are perfect stereotypes, like I said the difference is when you leave them in that stereotype after you know them and know they dont fit. Bottom line the guy at the Mercedes Driving Event shouldnt have said what he did, but at the same time it is not racist.
08-07-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vaughn1576
Racism is acting on a stereotype, which is what the Mecedes guy did at that event. It was racism in subtle form and you can see the pain it has caused... well maybe you can't see it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Check it out. It doesnt say anything about what people do, that is a stereotype. Racism is based on what a "race" is capable of accomplishing in life due to constriants of what they are able to do or that a certain race is superior. Whether asians drift or black people eat fried chicken, or any other steroetype we have of a certain race is not racism it is merely an activity that has been associated with that race. Too bad if you cant understand that.....
08-07-2007, 10:19 AM
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sorry to hear that vince.
why were you at benz anyways? its for old hokey people (as you can see).
write to benz corp and the event coordinators...maybe a long shot but better then doing nothing.
big corps are always big on their employees representing themselves, the company and the brand in a professional manner. if they hear someone acting like a ****, they may do something about it, especially at events like this.
why were you at benz anyways? its for old hokey people (as you can see).
write to benz corp and the event coordinators...maybe a long shot but better then doing nothing.
big corps are always big on their employees representing themselves, the company and the brand in a professional manner. if they hear someone acting like a ****, they may do something about it, especially at events like this.
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08-07-2007, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Racism has nothing to do with how people act and what they do, again here is the link for the definition of racism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Check it out. It doesnt say anything about what people do, that is a stereotype. Racism is based on what a "race" is capable of accomplishing in life due to constriants of what they are able to do or that a certain race is superior. Whether asians drift or black people eat fried chicken, or any other steroetype we have of a certain race is not racism it is merely an activity that has been associated with that race. Too bad if you cant understand that.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Check it out. It doesnt say anything about what people do, that is a stereotype. Racism is based on what a "race" is capable of accomplishing in life due to constriants of what they are able to do or that a certain race is superior. Whether asians drift or black people eat fried chicken, or any other steroetype we have of a certain race is not racism it is merely an activity that has been associated with that race. Too bad if you cant understand that.....
Oh... and if you need Wikepedia to tell you what racism is, then maybe you shouldn't be talking about it. It's really a common sense thing.
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Originally Posted by vaughn1576
Racism is treating someone differently because of race, which is what happened. It's just that simple. Use semantics all you want to negate his experience as you seem to want to minimize everything anyone experiences (like in your endless defense of VRT), but it was definitely racism.
Oh... and if you need Wikepedia to tell you what racism is, then maybe you shouldn't be talking about it. It's really a common sense thing.
Oh... and if you need Wikepedia to tell you what racism is, then maybe you shouldn't be talking about it. It's really a common sense thing.
You can compare this to VRT if you want, but again here I am not sticking up for anyone....I am trying to make you people realize that the actions however right or wrong were not RACIST! Bottomw line, I have said a few times that it was not the right thing to say, however, it does not make it racist.
As for using Wikepedia to define racism, I was doing it for you along with the rest of people here who dont understand the meaning of the word. I knew it was not racism and you did not understand that so I thought I would show you the definition.....did you take a look at it? Because if you did you would now know the definition of racism....
08-07-2007, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
I am not using semantics to neagate what happened. I am using the definition of racism to determine what happened. You say he was treated differently...he was allowed to drive the car right? He was asked if he was going to drift it. From where I sit it is a fair question to ask anyone, they were driving MB cars that were not theirs. I just went to a Lexus driving event and they told us the same kind of things.....i.e. keep it on the course, dont lock the wheels, etc. It is a driving event for Gods sake and people drive the crap out of the cars and he made sure the driver knew what was allowed and what wasnt. Did he do it in the best way he could, NO!! However it does not make what he said racist.
You can compare this to VRT if you want, but again here I am not sticking up for anyone....I am trying to make you people realize that the actions however right or wrong were not RACIST! Bottomw line, I have said a few times that it was not the right thing to say, however, it does not make it racist.
As for using Wikepedia to define racism, I was doing it for you along with the rest of people here who dont understand the meaning of the word. I knew it was not racism and you did not understand that so I thought I would show you the definition.....did you take a look at it? Because if you did you would now know the definition of racism....
You can compare this to VRT if you want, but again here I am not sticking up for anyone....I am trying to make you people realize that the actions however right or wrong were not RACIST! Bottomw line, I have said a few times that it was not the right thing to say, however, it does not make it racist.
As for using Wikepedia to define racism, I was doing it for you along with the rest of people here who dont understand the meaning of the word. I knew it was not racism and you did not understand that so I thought I would show you the definition.....did you take a look at it? Because if you did you would now know the definition of racism....
