ok, possible Cusco GB forming.
Just want to get a count so I can start calling around. Please confirm or ask me to take you off this list. If you like to be add to this list, just post here. Until I get some kind of pricing or confirmation on who is in, this will be an informal group buy. Once I get more finalized info, I'll open this GB out to the entire board.
This is for a set front/rear of Cusco Sway bars.

These are the people that showed some interested from my other thread:

1. Whatever (In)
2. Moodie (In)
3. mgl (pending on price)
4. apharmdb (?)
5. Bz8 (I know you want at least one!!)

 

The Cusco sway bars kick ***. One of the best mods I've done.

 

I'm checking the price for you guys now. I will let whatever know this afternoon.

 

 

Put me down for pending on price.

 

eh... put me down too... maybe...

have there been any spring rate comparisons between brands? I've got nismo's now... but have a feeling they could be much stronger...

anyone have any gut feelings or substantiated claims as to which set are the stiffest?

 

Dave, I am also interested in the group buy, pending price.

 

1. Whatever (In)
2. Moodie (In)
3. mgl (pending on price)
4. apharmdb (?)
5. Bz8 (I know you want at least one!!)
6. yobri (pending price)
7. Z-***** (maybe pending stiffness?)
8. I2h8BMW (pending price)

wow.. looks like I really have to go do my homework... let me do some search to see if I can find you guys more info on the Cusco. if I remember correctly, the stiffest sways for the Z so far are the Cusco....

 

This is what I found.... this quote is actually from Gsedan35's post here
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=59905

I'm going to try to see if I can get a better price then these...

Nismo:
front- 36mm (hollow core design, like the stock bar)
rear- 22mm (hollow core design)
$495 from http://www.gruppe-s.com/350z/zsus.htm

Cusco sway bar
35mm front solid, not hollow
22mm rear solid, not hollow
Front sway bar has two settings of 20% and 37% stiffer then stock
Rear sway bar is 73% stiffer then stock.
$395 shipped from this forum sponser (I got my Cusco bars from them) http://www.gruppe-s.com/350z/zsus.htm

Stillen 5-way adjustable bars
35mm front hollow 22mm rear hollow (converting from 1 3/8" & 7/8")
Claimed adjustment range 7% to 70% (unknown if both front and rear bars have the same full 7% to 70% range)
$479 www.stillen.com

Mines Sway bars
Front 20% stiffer rear 30% stiffer
$699.00(OUCH!)

Eibach specs from Eibach.com
34mm hollow front 22mm hollow rear
Front bar is 2-way adjustable, rear bar is 3-way adjustable
$349 shipped http://www.gruppe-s.com/350z/zsus.htm

350EVO Sway bars 3-way adjustable front and rear
34mm front and 23mm rear solid bar construction, not hollow.
$545 shipped
Front bar
middle adjustment 11% stiffer
stiff adjustment 33% stiffer

Rear bar
middle adjustment 25% stiffer
stiff adjustment 53% stiffer

Hotchkis Tuning Sport Sway bars
Sway bar sets include front and rear bars, greasable bushings,
and brackets.
Front 1 3/8" (35MM) Hollow (Bar Weight 13.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable
Rate Increase over stock
+9%,+32%,+63%

Rear 15/16"(24mm) Hollow (bar weight 5.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable
Rate Increase over stock
+54%,+92%,+146%
$249 at http://www.300zxstore.com/honi35swbark.html
http://www.hotchkistuning.com/cgi-bi...atalogno=22413

 

3 questions:
whats the difference between hollow and non-hollow(solid) bars??

does the cusco make noise (squeeking), i heard the 350evo bars do. does the hotchkis make noise??

and whats a good stiffness setting for spirited street driving (and running from the cops )??

 

Good questions.....

 

just doing some theorizing, don't take this as actual fact or info, I'm sure other guys on here can provide more sound advice.

you save weight on hollow while sacrificing stiffness and vice versa. But I'm sure there is a threshold on how hollow you can go while maximizing the stiffness. From many of the posts I read, stiffer is not always better. It all ends up on how you would like your car to perform (either on the track or on the street).

From riding with Jason, I didn't hear the cusco making any noises. No first hand experience with the hotchkis (or Hot Chiks as Yuichi would like to call them... )

from this post by failsafe and krinkov (scroll down to the long read)
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ht=cusco+sways
the stock ones might be the best for running away from cops....

 

my eyes hurt from all that reading.
still kinda confused on whether hollow or solid is better, being on the oem suspension. i'm sure with either would be an improvement from stock.

 

 

that means mine should be here next week???
r I need to call them... ~sigh... what;s dmv's number? moodie?

 

 

Squeaking is usually a result of the bushings. 350evo offers stiffer bushings to go along with their sway bar (polyurethane I believe). Stiffer bushings can result in some noise due to material used. I used the OEM bushings and don't have any noises. Everyone I know running a solid bar (like the Cusco and 350evo bars) are very satisfied. I've heard a few negatives from people I know who are running hollow bars. And I'm not too concerned by the extra 2-3 pounds with the solid bars.

Any of you who are running springs or coilovers should definitely make this your next mod. I was running with just the Teins for about a month before adding the sways. Adding the sway bars was a HUGE difference- the suspension felt much more solid and easier to predict. I'm currently running the front Cusco bar on the stiffest setting.

George- I would keep the Nismo springs since you have them. Invest in a set of sway bars before swapping the springs. You should notice a nice difference and might want to keep the springs you already have after installing the sways.

 

Jason, I got the eibach (i'm cheap) springs a while ago and got nismo sways to compliment a few days later. Now I'm just looking for something a little more...

RE: hollow versus solid - I don't know if the weight savings is significant... i think the k is the only thing that matters.

RE: squeaks... do indeed come from the bushings. That is, the bar rubbing against the rubber/urethane/whatever compound. Just lube the bushings and it goes away.

back to the topic at hand: So I didn't do much research when I got the nismo sways.... none at all actually. So that's why I'm thinking of swapping. Seems like hotchkis are the way to go so far... no?

 

Just so you know, Performance has always had the Nismos at a price of $385, so that might "sway" your decision. Ha ha I kill myself. No pun intended. Anyhoo, if you switch yours out Z ***** I might buy your Nismos if the price is right.

B

 

no update on these just yet.... most likely we won't be able to get these in time for the track day (for those that are going)... anyways, I'll let you guys know...