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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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I've noticed that some of you take really great pictures, and I know alot of it is experience with regards to how to take a picture, but the camera plays a big part as well. I'm currently in the market for a digital camera. I've narrowed it down to these models (but am still open to suggestions):

http://reviews.cnet.com/Olympus_C_77...tml?tag=glance

http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-6501_7-....html?tag=also

http://reviews.cnet.com/Canon_PowerS...l?tag=pdtl-img

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_Cyber_S...7.html?tag=top

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DX7630/DX76A.HTM

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/DX6490/D64A.HTM

Being the novice that I am, I don't quite understand terms such as aperture, etc. Can some of you guys give me some feedback on these cams? Also, what cams are you all using (be it digi or 35mm, SLR, etc.) and why?
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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Checkout the Sony DSC T1 Digital Camera 5.0 mp. Don't pay more than 375. You'll love the features. Link below

http://shopping.comcast.net/search_g...sterid=1590565
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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Canon Digital Rebel..Bottom Line.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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I agree with Zexy, if you can afford it get the Digital Rebel, your not gonna anything better for its price. I've got one, with a additional 80-130mm lense for it, and it just rocks.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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Out of those listed I would pick the Canon A95. Why? Great quality lense, many customizable features if you want to experiment with photography(fully adjustable aperture; 15sec exposure time) and the Canon A series consistently gets great reviews. Adjusting the aperture determines if the background will be clear or blurry.

Some pics I took with my Canon A70.
http://members.shaw.ca/jpoh007/canonA70/
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by soupnazi1
Out of those listed I would pick the Canon A95. Why? Great quality lense, many customizable features if you want to experiment with photography(fully adjustable aperture; 15sec exposure time) and the Canon A series consistently gets great reviews. Adjusting the aperture determines if the background will be clear or blurry.

Some pics I took with my Canon A70.
http://members.shaw.ca/jpoh007/canonA70/
Nice pics bro. I like the A-series cams as well. So many good cams.

As for the Digital Rebel, how much are the additional lenses? Does it have a burst mode like many of the other cams?
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Digital rebel is a nice camera but with accessories its gonna be more than 1K. I paid 800 for the camera with the 18-55mm lens plus 80 for the camera bag plus 50-80 for the mem card. After that i still need a better lens and thats probably another 150-200.

did u consider this one

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...equestid=14516
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by GrYpS
Digital rebel is a nice camera but with accessories its gonna be more than 1K. I paid 800 for the camera with the 18-55mm lens plus 80 for the camera bag plus 50-80 for the mem card. After that i still need a better lens and thats probably another 150-200.

did u consider this one

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQueri...equestid=14516
I actually really like the Digital Rebel, but everywhere I'm finding it is selling it for $750-899+ without a lens. Where did you buy yours? I'd be willing to shell out 8 bills if it came w/ a lens.

I'm considering this as an alternative. The reviews rank it high:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz20/

I reviewed that Kodak, but for the same money I could purchase the Panasonic Lumix which is ranked higher than the Kodak on all the review sites. Good looking out though. Trust me, I tried to stay with Kodak, but other cams are outshining it. I will say that there are a few Kodaks that do well for their price point, especially their 6.1 MP Kodak.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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709 after rebate

http://buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=CNDIGRBL1855

as for memory card u probably need @ least a 512 which will give u around 120 pics @ maximum

http://buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSCF512MB
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Granted, an SLR is going to generate so awesome pictures, no doubt about it.

Here is some other stuff to think about.

Do you see yourself hauling around a big camera? I decided to get one that fit in my pocket without being annoying so I could take it everywhere. This was great on my trip to Hawaii because I ended up with lots of just whip out the camera and take a picture type shots. If you do get a small one, make sure it has a built in lens cap, or it may fall off in your pocket.

From your choices above, it looks like you are getting at least a 5MP, don't get anything less in this day and age.

I am currently using a Olympus D40 Zoom, it's old, so don't bother looking it up. It takes marvelous pictures and works well.
I am currently looking at upgrading to either a C 60 Zoom ( http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...=2&product=958 ) or a C 7000 Zoom ( http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_se...2&product=1136 ). I would like a 7MP with the 5x lens but like the size of the C60. I may look at the Sony 7mp as well.

If you wonder why I like the small pocket cameras, check out my website, http://www.hypersprite.com/z (for my Z galleries, about 50 pictures) and http://www.hypersprite.com (for my Mini galleries, about 2000 pictures), in almost any gallery you can find pictures that I could not have taken with a large camera. Keep in mind they have all been resized to 800x600 for faster loading.

Chris
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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More megapixels does NOT necessarily mean better pictures! Check out the review sites, and you will see what I mean. Some of the better cameras from a couple years ago with 3 or 4 megapixels take better photos than the newer "megapixel race" cameras.

They are using smaller CCD sensors with closely packed pixels, so the lenses have trouble projecting a clear image on the CCD that is so small.

My point is, look at the picture quality, but ignore the megapixles. Any new camera will have plenty for general use. The only time you really need the extra resolution is if you are going to do a lot of cropping or very large prints.

Canon and Nikon probably make the best - well-rounded cameras. Check out the Canon A-series if you want small size, and check out the G-series if you want a better lens and battery life. I like Canon because their colors are the most life-like. Nikon is good. Sony tends to exagerate colors, but their photos are razor sharp.

Check out dpreview.com and stevesdigicams.com, and look closely at the sample photos at full resolution. If you care about features or portability more than image quality, consider all brands. If image quality is your #1 priority, stick with Canon or Nikon.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Ok guys, Canon EOS 10D with lots, and lots of extra goodies. Your opinions (which should be good considering the Digital Rebel is very similar). I'm getting a deal w/ 2 lenses, the battery grip, and a load of stuff for around $800.00.

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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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I consider your deal great. We'll it depends on the glass. I like it to be canon with IS and USM. But still, the camera new is going for $1200.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Ok, that's going to be either grey market or stolen if new! Is it used? A good lens alone could cost $800+. Great camera, though!

Originally posted by Vanos_Villain
Ok guys, Canon EOS 10D with lots, and lots of extra goodies. Your opinions (which should be good considering the Digital Rebel is very similar). I'm getting a deal w/ 2 lenses, the battery grip, and a load of stuff for around $800.00.
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Them Bones
Ok, that's going to be either grey market or stolen if new! Is it used? A good lens alone could cost $800+. Great camera, though!
Naw, it's used....but in good condition. He has the receipts and boxes to almost everything. What does the term "grey market" mean exactly?
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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grey market means something that was not intended for this market. So someone vising europe and bought a camera and wants to sell it in the USA would be considered grey market.

Dude, if you know the party selling you the camera, ok. But if not, don't buy from places like buydig and craps like that.

For a smaller point and shoot, my ultimate choice is the Sony V1
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Old Dec 9, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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Ya a 10D is sweet to say the least. Its only 1generation behind their newest model which didn't come out too long ago.

I'd say jump on that offer period, if its in good condition.
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