taurran : "Testing new waters" with the Turbonetics ST
10-17-2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay'Z
Obviously he doesnt want to share.. Its all good.. 
10-18-2007, 03:12 AM
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I don't really think that my update was "off topic" I'm sorry it wasn't about your build, but I believe that I was also "testing the waters with the Turbonetics ST" I didn't really expect my turbo to be replaced, it just really sucks that I am our 1000 dollars due to their incompetence.
Originally Posted by taurran
Sorry to hear, but I don't think my thread is the best place to bring up these issues. I'm going to agree with Tengai here, but of course it's up to you.
Unfortunately providing a new turbo is the only reasonable thing they can do. Performance parts companies cannot make practice of refunding every dollar spent trying to get a part to work, even if it's a manufacturing issue, or else they'd be out of business real quick. It sucks, but that's the way the industry works.
I don't think you're going to make 500whp on the 60-1 because the turbo isn't sized for that kind of power. You'll probably see 450-470whp and a lot of torque.
That being said, I'd like to ask that the thread not get off topic. If you'd like to turn it into a Turbonetics bashing session, make another please.
Unfortunately providing a new turbo is the only reasonable thing they can do. Performance parts companies cannot make practice of refunding every dollar spent trying to get a part to work, even if it's a manufacturing issue, or else they'd be out of business real quick. It sucks, but that's the way the industry works.
I don't think you're going to make 500whp on the 60-1 because the turbo isn't sized for that kind of power. You'll probably see 450-470whp and a lot of torque.
That being said, I'd like to ask that the thread not get off topic. If you'd like to turn it into a Turbonetics bashing session, make another please.
10-18-2007, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ILLBZNU
I don't really think that my update was "off topic" I'm sorry it wasn't about your build, but I believe that I was also "testing the waters with the Turbonetics ST" I didn't really expect my turbo to be replaced, it just really sucks that I am our 1000 dollars due to their incompetence.
oh well at least you got things figured out... but i hope you keep the bigger turbo
10-18-2007, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Good luck making the power your looking for..thats gonna be one big a$$ turbo!!
The new compressor will be big, but should also be resistant to surge on low boost under partial throttle.
I'll see if Jeremy can get some pics of the turbo this weekend.
10-18-2007, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by taurran
Thanks, actually I'm hoping the spool characteristics won't be that much different than the previous setup. This time around we've taken into account of our power goal of 600+ with the utec and future goal of 700+whp on a stand alone EMS (most likely Haltech).
The new compressor will be big, but should also be resistant to surge on low boost under partial throttle.
I'll see if Jeremy can get some pics of the turbo this weekend.
The new compressor will be big, but should also be resistant to surge on low boost under partial throttle.
I'll see if Jeremy can get some pics of the turbo this weekend.
Just off set the spool up with N2O
10-18-2007, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
It will spool up later.I notice going from twin GT25's on the APS standard to twin GT28's on their extreme kit, the car has lost that low end spool up, and makes full boost at 4500rpms whereas the older set up spooled at 3600.
Just off set the spool up with N2O
Just off set the spool up with N2O
Unlike your example, we didn't swap out for an entirely new turbo. You're thinking of out-of-the-box turbo sizings while I'm on the level of actually sizing the individual components. We only went with a larger compressor side with a nicer housing so I'm hoping it'll make full boost around the same time that extreme kit does.
10-18-2007, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
It will spool up later.I notice going from twin GT25's on the APS standard to twin GT28's on their extreme kit, the car has lost that low end spool up, and makes full boost at 4500rpms whereas the older set up spooled at 3600.
Just off set the spool up with N2O
Just off set the spool up with N2O
10-18-2007, 07:35 AM
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that is some interesting stuff, is the porting you are talking about the holes drilled into the inlet (venturi shaped cone off the middle of the intake side of the turbo? I wondered what that was for.
how does that close at higher boost or is it simply an effect of the airflow at that point?
how does that close at higher boost or is it simply an effect of the airflow at that point?
10-18-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
that is some interesting stuff, is the porting you are talking about the holes drilled into the inlet (venturi shaped cone off the middle of the intake side of the turbo? I wondered what that was for.
how does that close at higher boost or is it simply an effect of the airflow at that point?
how does that close at higher boost or is it simply an effect of the airflow at that point?
10-19-2007, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by escobar929
saw your car at PF last week, it looks sick!
cant wait to see how it does w/ the new turbo.
cant wait to see how it does w/ the new turbo.
On another note - Jeremy just got the new turbo. I'm still waiting for pics.
10-19-2007, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by taurran
They don't close. They simply improve flow at both low and high boost levels. At lower levels this give an "anti surge" effect, and at higher boost it facilitates increased air flow and allows the turbo to operate more efficiently. Hence the term "map enhancement porting".
10-19-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzardmountain
Craig...is your build the deciding factor on if TN does a stage 2 kit?
Can't wait to see pics.....
Can't wait to see pics.....
I'm heading up to Orlando tomorrow to check it out. Maybe I'll get something then.