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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Jeff your always welcome to hang out with me lol

Ill be dropping my car off at Failsafe Performance in Tulsa, OK. around the 19th of july if you wanna ride with me.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by viva la spam
car above appears to be an '06, although im not 100% sure. I know bhp means break horsepower, which basically means, what the motor itself puts out. You are right bhp is higher because hp is lost in the transfer of power to the wheels.

I asked someone in the crowd if the orange cobalt was supercharged (which I was under the impression that they all are) and I was told that it was turbocharged. Im not familiar with the capacity of power in that SS engine, but I wonder what their breaking point is? You would think since its beefed up from the factory they would have potential for more power out of a stock block?

Since you have the high rev, does your car put more power then the Vq35de?
Back when I had an Type-S, I do recall that stock for stock those things would own us. Then they got a turbo (don't remember what year) and they'd walk us hard. Especially from a dig as type-s' have no LSD.
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Jeff your always welcome to hang out with me lol

Ill be dropping my car off at Failsafe Performance in Tulsa, OK. around the 19th of july if you wanna ride with me.
I actually would be down for that. I've been on the phone w/ fail safe & would like to meet em prior to doing business with em.
How you gettin back home though if we're droppin your ride off? Need me to bring my car?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Yeah Marco, the rev up was rated with higher HP, but lower TQ.
Also, I've heard a lot of good things about Failsafe thus far. I haven't talked to them, but it'd be great to have a damn good tuning shop decently close. Also yay for actually typing on a computer and not on my iPhone this time.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 07:41 AM
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Back when I had an Type-S, I do recall that stock for stock those things would own us. Then they got a turbo (don't remember what year) and they'd walk us hard. Especially from a dig as type-s' have no LSD.


I actually would be down for that. I've been on the phone w/ fail safe & would like to meet em prior to doing business with em.
How you gettin back home though if we're droppin your ride off? Need me to bring my car?
Well failsafe is around 3,30min from clarksville. If you would be down to drive, that would be awesome. I was gunna ask my pops to follow me in his x-terra but hes works all the time. My dad towed my 350 up there back in november i believe? I understand people are busy, worse case scenario I would get a rental for a day.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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Chris is good people, I left my car with him for 2 weeks or so. His work is very neat (spellcheck?) and his knowledge on the vq is outstanding. I would recommend his business to others.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by viva la spam
Well failsafe is around 3,30min from clarksville. If you would be down to drive, that would be awesome. I was gunna ask my pops to follow me in his x-terra but hes works all the time. My dad towed my 350 up there back in november i believe? I understand people are busy, worse case scenario I would get a rental for a day.
Are you staying in Clarksville? Or Little Rock? I'm way down here in Bryant, AR.
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Chris is good people, I left my car with him for 2 weeks or so. His work is very neat (spellcheck?) and his knowledge on the vq is outstanding. I would recommend his business to others.
Yea this is what I was quoted from him:

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Chris, I live in Arkansas. And you guys are the closest shop that is active on these boards to me. I was wondering what the following would cost at your shop or if your shop could even do it:

-Quaife LSD (dunno if I need the one for manual trannies or for 5AT trannies)
-4.08 FD gears (I have a 5AT tranny though)
-osiris
-custom tune

Since I have a 5AT and when going to a numerically higher FD I lose cruise control. But many of us 5at owners wondered if we got the osiris if we would gain our cruise control function back?
Hi there,
Give me a little while to put a quote together and I will get back to you by the end of the day.

Thanks

Chris
Yes sir no rush. I wouldn't be available to do this until end of summer anyways with all the traveling I'm doing for work. Thanks again Chris.
Okay, here are some prices for you to look over, but first I have some more questions:

What year is your Z, and what is the mileage? We may want to replace the bearings/bolts during install, depending on your cars mileage.

Also, does your Z have the factory VLSD?

4.08 gear set with with all necessary replacement parts, including shipping $620.00
Quaife LSD, including shipping $1460.00
Labor to install differential / gear set $480.00
Osiris w/ NA dyno tune $849.00

Let me know about the mileage and VLSD, and if you have any questions or comments feel free to shoot me a PM. We look forward to working with you in the future

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Since then I still haven't heard back from Osiris if I will gain my CC function back if I purchase their product. Not to mention I'd prefer to find a used quaife as they come with a lifetime warranty anyways... Surely there will be someone that decides to trade in their Z and will part out this particular part prior to trading in.

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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ill be staying in Clarksville.

U should probably pm chris, he removed the haltech from his car since he is an authrorized dealer for uprev now. Last I heard is that hes running the osiris software on his HR. Im making payments on his used haltech and will be getting re-tuned by him. +1 for buying used parts lol.

I thought that w/osiris software you can select different maps by using cc? Does changing the vlsd and final gears affect cc? hmmm.... interesting topic

Im calling him in a couple minutes
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by viva la spam
ill be staying in Clarksville.

U should probably pm chris, he removed the haltech from his car since he is an authrorized dealer for uprev now. Last I heard is that hes running the osiris software on his HR. Im making payments on his used haltech and will be getting re-tuned by him. +1 for buying used parts lol.

I thought that w/osiris software you can select different maps by using cc? Does changing the vlsd and final gears affect cc? hmmm.... interesting topic

Im calling him in a couple minutes
Changing the gears for us AT owners does remove your CC functions.
And yeap, you're right, you change maps via the CC buttons on the wheel w/ osiris.
That's why I was hoping that going with a unit like osiris I can possibly get my CC function back.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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^^^Im not sure what your a vlsd really does, so please learn it to me

If it were me, I would not give up my CC for a different gear ratio. If final gears have control over CC, I dont think by getting a osiris reflash u would gain them back.

If faster accerleration is what you are trying to acheive, then look into a transgo shift kit. superchargedg swears on that chett, he claims his trans response is amazing, and chirps tires in every gear except 4-5. Then again hes running twins... do they have a vb upgrade for the HR?
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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^^^Im not sure what your a vlsd really does, so please learn it to me

If it were me, I would not give up my CC for a different gear ratio. If final gears have control over CC, I dont think by getting a osiris reflash u would gain them back.

If faster accerleration is what you are trying to acheive, then look into a transgo shift kit. superchargedg swears on that chett, he claims his trans response is amazing, and chirps tires in every gear except 4-5. Then again hes running twins... do they have a vb upgrade for the HR?
My VLSD does exactly what the quaife does. Except at the mileage that mine has it's about to crap out and i'll be running open diff basically when it decides to shet on me.
Yea, I agree if I lose my CC and I can't get it back via an aftermarket ECU then to hell with the final drive.
For you all with manuals you don't lose CC function. So it has something to do w/ the tranny. Not sure what though.
Yeap, nothing changed between the 2004-2009 for the AT thus we can use any valvebody upgrade if I'm not mistaken. I haven't researched much on valvebodies.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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what is your mileage on your Z? My older brother and I did the stillen vb upgrade install together. lmk if you ever need help broskee
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what is your mileage on your Z? My older brother and I did the stillen vb upgrade install together. lmk if you ever need help broskee
I have 57,xxx miles on her. Bought her when she had 52k. She came w/ a 100k certified used extended warranty which sounded enticing. Later I find out it only covers items like the engine, trans, axles, ect... Not interior parts.

I'd like to eventually get a VB upgrade. I think the only options available are:
-stillen (though I read not to get it)
- GTM
-SGP
-transgo
Am I missing any?
Also, I called Chris yesterday and left a voicemail in regards to my cruise control function. Only because I came across one post where an AT owner swears he has his cc functioning just fine.
If MT owners retain CC function after going w/ lower gears (numerically higher) I don't understand why us AT owners can't.?.?
Not to mention, unlike my history of Jeep Wranglers where we typically change out speedometer gears when going to bigger tires to retain correct speedometer read out.... I understand our 350z don't have speedo gear but a sensor that no matter what size wheel/tire you get or FD gears you get it will always read the correct MPH, so I'm stumped as to why everyone states AT's lose CC when changing out FD.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:17 AM
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It will not always read the correct MPH. I have a different size wheel and tire combo on my car now and my speedo is off by 5mph at 70. As far as the CC issue, I am not sure why you guys wouldn't be able to maintain CC if you are simply changing gears.
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probably VDC related, if so equipped. The CC works at lower highway speeds, but at some point will not stay set. I seem to recall someone telling me it was over 70... the reason I know is because they had just driven in from MS (to LR) and didnt get to use cruise very much. It was definitely an AT with VDC. I dont recall which gears they were running.
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It will not always read the correct MPH. I have a different size wheel and tire combo on my car now and my speedo is off by 5mph at 70. As far as the CC issue, I am not sure why you guys wouldn't be able to maintain CC if you are simply changing gears.
Interesting. I read we need not worry about speedo discrepencies (sp?) when changing wheels/tire sizes.
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probably VDC related, if so equipped. The CC works at lower highway speeds, but at some point will not stay set. I seem to recall someone telling me it was over 70... the reason I know is because they had just driven in from MS (to LR) and didnt get to use cruise very much. It was definitely an AT with VDC. I dont recall which gears they were running.
I've read, recently, that someone else felt it was VDC related. I think base automatics don't have VDC which may be the reason I found 1 guy reporting his AT 350 could still use CC after uping his FD
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while it's true that you have independent wheel speed sensors for VDC, on the stub axles, so the FD ratio wouldnt matter, its also possible that the ECU thinks there is a tranny problem. Perhaps it thinks there is slippage. I know that is a value that gets reported back to the ECU (trans speed vs final wheel speed). I think it's pretty much the same effect as having tires with a larger than allowable difference between front and rear. But in this case, the out of bound value is the RPM of the drivetrain itself, used to detect overall slippage of the road or drivetrain... which would mean that you could conceivably put your car in limp mode with lots of wheelspin. (just like stock, just easier to do with a different FD)

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^that makes sense when you put it like that.
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J.Dub you posting responses w/ Offline status???
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J.Dub you posting responses w/ Offline status???
I am very sneaky sir.

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The guy that I have always taken my vehicles to for body work quoted me $300 to weld shut the holes behind the rear emblem and the .963" hole left by my rear wiper. This includes painting the hatch, blending it in, and clear coat. He's always done perfect work. I trust him.

But, is this a good price? I was hoping for something around the $200 range.
Does anyone know of other places that do good work?
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