No more Vortech.... TT kit
01-12-2007, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by myspivey
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My first thing I do once the weather is mild and 45 degrees if washing the sucker 
Thanks for the sleeper comment, that's what I'm going for, never been a big person on decking out the exterior of an import, I'll just put the money into the engine and drivetrain and eventually beefier tires/suspension once it's required
01-12-2007, 10:21 AM
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Fun thread... each there own as they say.
I suppose I would be all about boost if I planned to be living here for the long run. But I'll be at sea level within a year, if not sooner... I'm confident my car will hang well enough for what I need. I'm mainly about tracking it anyway, and I’d rather dump money into brakes and cams, and the whole n/a route. Just a personal pref thing, no offense to anyone that has a different plan for their car.
I'll just add one more thought - once my car is done, it is only going to cost me maybe 5k to do what I am looking at. It will be very quick, maybe not the quickest, but there is always 'bigger faster stronger' out there, eventually you will cross its path. And besides, I can always spend another grand on a nitrous setup, and then when I am in that rare situation where I am starting to lose to a f/i car, it will be infinitely amusing to flip a little switch and torch the **** out of him.
All this will cost me the same or less than most F/I setups that are worth doing. Minus the headaches and worry that are big concerns for a daily driver.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
I suppose I would be all about boost if I planned to be living here for the long run. But I'll be at sea level within a year, if not sooner... I'm confident my car will hang well enough for what I need. I'm mainly about tracking it anyway, and I’d rather dump money into brakes and cams, and the whole n/a route. Just a personal pref thing, no offense to anyone that has a different plan for their car.
I'll just add one more thought - once my car is done, it is only going to cost me maybe 5k to do what I am looking at. It will be very quick, maybe not the quickest, but there is always 'bigger faster stronger' out there, eventually you will cross its path. And besides, I can always spend another grand on a nitrous setup, and then when I am in that rare situation where I am starting to lose to a f/i car, it will be infinitely amusing to flip a little switch and torch the **** out of him.
All this will cost me the same or less than most F/I setups that are worth doing. Minus the headaches and worry that are big concerns for a daily driver.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
01-12-2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rjg
All this will cost me the same or less than most F/I setups that are worth doing. Minus the headaches and worry that are big concerns for a daily driver.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
01-12-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rjg
Fun thread... each there own as they say.
I suppose I would be all about boost if I planned to be living here for the long run. But I'll be at sea level within a year, if not sooner... I'm confident my car will hang well enough for what I need. I'm mainly about tracking it anyway, and I’d rather dump money into brakes and cams, and the whole n/a route. Just a personal pref thing, no offense to anyone that has a different plan for their car.
I'll just add one more thought - once my car is done, it is only going to cost me maybe 5k to do what I am looking at. It will be very quick, maybe not the quickest, but there is always 'bigger faster stronger' out there, eventually you will cross its path. And besides, I can always spend another grand on a nitrous setup, and then when I am in that rare situation where I am starting to lose to a f/i car, it will be infinitely amusing to flip a little switch and torch the **** out of him.
All this will cost me the same or less than most F/I setups that are worth doing. Minus the headaches and worry that are big concerns for a daily driver.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
I suppose I would be all about boost if I planned to be living here for the long run. But I'll be at sea level within a year, if not sooner... I'm confident my car will hang well enough for what I need. I'm mainly about tracking it anyway, and I’d rather dump money into brakes and cams, and the whole n/a route. Just a personal pref thing, no offense to anyone that has a different plan for their car.
I'll just add one more thought - once my car is done, it is only going to cost me maybe 5k to do what I am looking at. It will be very quick, maybe not the quickest, but there is always 'bigger faster stronger' out there, eventually you will cross its path. And besides, I can always spend another grand on a nitrous setup, and then when I am in that rare situation where I am starting to lose to a f/i car, it will be infinitely amusing to flip a little switch and torch the **** out of him.
All this will cost me the same or less than most F/I setups that are worth doing. Minus the headaches and worry that are big concerns for a daily driver.
I also have concerns about keeping the car close to street legal, if not totally street legal; I know there are ways to work around that, but why hassle with it? Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Anyway, just my approach, like I said, no offense to anyone that has a different plan, different strokes for different folks, that's all.
because even in those video battles by the japanese. Tsuchiya even says our Z cars are much better with FI and should have came factory with them.
not trying to bash or anything... but i just dont get it
01-12-2007, 10:44 AM
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No, definately not saying na is better for tracking.
BUT, it takes more than pure HP to be a good driver on the track. Once you start to track your car you realize that the least of your worries with the Z is the engine/power. For me, I know I will be MUCH faster with better brakes and some suspension work.
BUT, it takes more than pure HP to be a good driver on the track. Once you start to track your car you realize that the least of your worries with the Z is the engine/power. For me, I know I will be MUCH faster with better brakes and some suspension work.
01-12-2007, 10:55 AM
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No, definately not saying na is better for tracking.
BUT, it takes more than pure HP to be a good driver on the track. Once you start to track your car you realize that the least of your worries with the Z is the engine/power. For me, I know I will be MUCH faster with better brakes and some suspension work.
BUT, it takes more than pure HP to be a good driver on the track. Once you start to track your car you realize that the least of your worries with the Z is the engine/power. For me, I know I will be MUCH faster with better brakes and some suspension work.
Youngz33, Once you attend a HPDE Track day or Auto-x you'll be able to understand this more.
01-12-2007, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Juztin
personally I could care less for the track or strip, I'm just looking foward to building a fast car, FI helps me accomplish that
01-12-2007, 01:42 PM
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ummmmkay....But what about the "wanting a reliable car" flipping the switch to spray some nitrous. I'm not saying I think nitrous is BAD for a car, but it maybe worse that a well done FI car. And lets say you have 245 rwhp and you have a 100 shot so now your around 345 and i dunno 400 tq, that still doesn't put you over a well done FI. Also, Also I don't see nitrous having a place on a track car.
Final thought...What really got me is Kevin ALREADY was FI, this was his thread about UPGRADING. Doesn't really seem to be the time or place to even have a discussion of what's better or even people personal opinion of pro's and con's SOOOOOOO
Congrats Kevin, good choice and can't wait to start wrenchin' and taking a change of underwear drive in her!
J-man OUT
Final thought...What really got me is Kevin ALREADY was FI, this was his thread about UPGRADING. Doesn't really seem to be the time or place to even have a discussion of what's better or even people personal opinion of pro's and con's SOOOOOOO
Congrats Kevin, good choice and can't wait to start wrenchin' and taking a change of underwear drive in her!
J-man OUT
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Originally Posted by rjg
Plus, there is a reason for all this CARB stuff, maybe I'm the only one that worries about the environment, but I'm not too big on adding to the problem if I can help it. I’m a bit of tree hugger on that point I suppose, probably not fashionable among this crowd, but it’s the truth, heavy mod’s aren’t helping the big picture.
Kevin has not been keeping up with this thread he's outback burning a pile of tires and styrofoam.
ps- sean did you get your airconditioner recharged after kev took the line off we still can't get that funny smell out of the garage?
Gotta go club a seal
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Man those fumes made me see pink elephants! I hit a bald eagle and a white wolf on the drive home. I don't know who you are noobie (hiz38ds) but you seem a stand up fellow!
Cheers chaps!
Cheers chaps!
01-12-2007, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hr2burn
Man those fumes made me see pink elephants! I hit a bald eagle and a white wolf on the drive home. I don't know who you are noobie (hiz38ds) but you seem a stand up fellow!
Cheers chaps!
Cheers chaps!
with a name like mine why would you say fellow?
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(Pretending I don't know who you are, hence the fellow!) Am I a vegetarian if I eat meat once in awhile? If I REALLY was concerned w/ the environment wouldn't I drive something that got better that 20 mpg? That means I just kinda like to say I am kind of concerned....
I'm done here..for real!
I'm done here..for real!
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Originally Posted by HiZ38Ds
Kevin has not been keeping up with this thread he's outback burning a pile of tires and styrofoam.
ps- sean did you get your airconditioner recharged after kev took the line off we still can't get that funny smell out of the garage?
Gotta go club a seal
ps- sean did you get your airconditioner recharged after kev took the line off we still can't get that funny smell out of the garage?
Gotta go club a seal
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Originally Posted by HiZ38Ds
Kevin has not been keeping up with this thread he's outback burning a pile of tires and styrofoam.
ps- sean did you get your airconditioner recharged after kev took the line off we still can't get that funny smell out of the garage?
Gotta go club a seal
ps- sean did you get your airconditioner recharged after kev took the line off we still can't get that funny smell out of the garage?
Gotta go club a seal
Way too funny.