Calif Smog Testing to change
06-05-2012, 01:16 PM
#1
Calif Smog Testing to change
2013..NO MORE SNIFFER BABY! That means, if you can pass OBD (defoulers...etc) you're set. Just find someone who will *look the other way* on visual. Most of em don't know the difference between HFC (non CARB) and real thing either. Let alone TP and real thing.
Here it is:
Hasn't passed yet, but should.
AB 2289 - New Smog Check Law
Set to begin January 01, 2013; Model year 2000 and newer vehicles will no longer require the tailpipe emissions test portion of the smog check process. AB 2289 will require late model vehicles be administered the smog check's visual and functional tests only.
The implementation of AB 2289 is expected to reduce the time and cost of the smog check. The program will now take better advantage of a vehicle's OBD II technology by eliminating tailpipe testing and instead using the vehicle's own OBD II emissions monitoring system.
This new smog test system is already in place in 22 other states. "This new and improved program will have the same result as taking 800,000 old cars off the road, also resulting in a more cost effective program for California motorists." said ARB Chairman, Mary D. Nichols.
Currently California's smog check procedure requires all vehicles undergo a tailpipe emissions inspection to measure harmful pollutant output from the tailpipe, a visual inspection for present and properly installed emissions components, a functional test to insure the proper operation of various emission components; and as part of the functional test, an OBD II computer diagnostic check.
Under AB 2289, the tailpipe emissions portion of the smog inspection will be eliminated for 2000 model and newer cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
Background on the OBD II system - All vehicles imported into the United States as of 1996 have had to be equipped with an On Board Diagnostics system referred to as OBD II. The OBD II diagnostic system is designed to monitor all aspects of your engine's emission conditions and report this information to a central database within it's computer. This information is processed and checked against the computers pre-determined values for various input levels and performance patterns.
If any problems are found, the computer will determine whether to alert the driver or not. If a decision has been made to alert the driver of an emissions problem, the "Check Engine" or "Engine Malfunction" light will illuminate on the vehicle's dashboard. In more serious emission conditions the computer may even begin to rapidly flash the "Check Engine/Malfunction" light indicating to the driver, that the vehicle needs immediate diagnosis/repair attention.
AB 2289 now requires the smog test inspection to rely on data from a vehicle's own on board emissions computer to determine the vehicle's harmful emissions production as opposed to using a smog machine to sample the vehicle's emissions output from the tailpipe. This design is expected to reduce the cost of equipment at the smog station, reduce the amount of time it takes to smog check a vehicle, and reduce the cost of the smog inspection to the consumer.
AB 2289 - Makes changes to the following smog inspection procedures and guidelines:
A. Authorize the use of On Board Diagnostic II testing to expedite the process.
B. Vehicles known to release large amounts of pollution must test at stations with the highest performance ratings.
C. Stricter fines structure for improper inspections.
D. Permit the state to contract with the private sector to manage franchise-like networks of independently owned Smog Check stations.
E. Encourage community colleges and other training institutions to develop technician-training programs.
Here it is:
Hasn't passed yet, but should.
AB 2289 - New Smog Check Law
Set to begin January 01, 2013; Model year 2000 and newer vehicles will no longer require the tailpipe emissions test portion of the smog check process. AB 2289 will require late model vehicles be administered the smog check's visual and functional tests only.
The implementation of AB 2289 is expected to reduce the time and cost of the smog check. The program will now take better advantage of a vehicle's OBD II technology by eliminating tailpipe testing and instead using the vehicle's own OBD II emissions monitoring system.
This new smog test system is already in place in 22 other states. "This new and improved program will have the same result as taking 800,000 old cars off the road, also resulting in a more cost effective program for California motorists." said ARB Chairman, Mary D. Nichols.
Currently California's smog check procedure requires all vehicles undergo a tailpipe emissions inspection to measure harmful pollutant output from the tailpipe, a visual inspection for present and properly installed emissions components, a functional test to insure the proper operation of various emission components; and as part of the functional test, an OBD II computer diagnostic check.
Under AB 2289, the tailpipe emissions portion of the smog inspection will be eliminated for 2000 model and newer cars, trucks, vans, and SUVs.
Background on the OBD II system - All vehicles imported into the United States as of 1996 have had to be equipped with an On Board Diagnostics system referred to as OBD II. The OBD II diagnostic system is designed to monitor all aspects of your engine's emission conditions and report this information to a central database within it's computer. This information is processed and checked against the computers pre-determined values for various input levels and performance patterns.
If any problems are found, the computer will determine whether to alert the driver or not. If a decision has been made to alert the driver of an emissions problem, the "Check Engine" or "Engine Malfunction" light will illuminate on the vehicle's dashboard. In more serious emission conditions the computer may even begin to rapidly flash the "Check Engine/Malfunction" light indicating to the driver, that the vehicle needs immediate diagnosis/repair attention.
AB 2289 now requires the smog test inspection to rely on data from a vehicle's own on board emissions computer to determine the vehicle's harmful emissions production as opposed to using a smog machine to sample the vehicle's emissions output from the tailpipe. This design is expected to reduce the cost of equipment at the smog station, reduce the amount of time it takes to smog check a vehicle, and reduce the cost of the smog inspection to the consumer.
AB 2289 - Makes changes to the following smog inspection procedures and guidelines:
A. Authorize the use of On Board Diagnostic II testing to expedite the process.
B. Vehicles known to release large amounts of pollution must test at stations with the highest performance ratings.
C. Stricter fines structure for improper inspections.
D. Permit the state to contract with the private sector to manage franchise-like networks of independently owned Smog Check stations.
E. Encourage community colleges and other training institutions to develop technician-training programs.
06-05-2012, 03:15 PM
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This is a step in the right direction, I guess but this isn't really big news as there are way of getting 'help' even when you have grossly illegal modifications like turbochargers.
A big relief will come if California ever eases-up on ticketing modded cars or allows mods to be road legal (which will probably never happen).
A big relief will come if California ever eases-up on ticketing modded cars or allows mods to be road legal (which will probably never happen).
06-05-2012, 06:40 PM
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Here in Nevada , that is how it is done. They never even have to pop the hood.
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06-05-2012, 06:53 PM
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I have a smog tech who will look the other way as far as what's on the car...but you can't avoid results from obd or the sniffer. With sniffer gone..that's a biggie, since OBD can be fooled to some degree...not so with the sniffer.
Last edited by ronn1; 06-05-2012 at 07:01 PM.
06-05-2012, 06:58 PM
#9
This is a step in the right direction, I guess but this isn't really big news as there are way of getting 'help' even when you have grossly illegal modifications like turbochargers.
A big relief will come if California ever eases-up on ticketing modded cars or allows mods to be road legal (which will probably never happen).
A big relief will come if California ever eases-up on ticketing modded cars or allows mods to be road legal (which will probably never happen).
Last edited by ronn1; 06-05-2012 at 06:59 PM.
06-05-2012, 11:24 PM
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Since I've been in California, its funny how much stuff you guys have to go through. Glad something is happeneing in your favor. So essentially if you have no CEL then your car will be fine.
Hell, an inspection in TX is, "Your horns, lights, brakes, work? No CEL, no other dash lights?
YOU GET A STICKER!!!
Noone is going to climb under the car and check test pipes, and BS. And a highflow cat compared to a OEM eh, looks the same to someone who doesn't know.
Hell, an inspection in TX is, "Your horns, lights, brakes, work? No CEL, no other dash lights?
YOU GET A STICKER!!!
Noone is going to climb under the car and check test pipes, and BS. And a highflow cat compared to a OEM eh, looks the same to someone who doesn't know.
06-06-2012, 04:37 PM
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this should not only just be in california, as more states are adopting the CARB standard. This could potentially affect other states. It would be nice if this passes, does anyone know when it goes to vote?