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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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I'm totally familiar with the instructions, all I'm saying is that for the hundreds of AP's sold, I've never had a single customer, nor have I read about anyone frying their ecu - so I think it's a non issue anda very standard disclaimer contained in their instructions.

As for the custom tuning, customers cannot purchase that software themselves. Only Cobb Pro Tuners have that software (there are lots of Pro Tuners throughout the US)

Cobb offers base maps for a generic mods, but what seperates these (traditionally) from other premapped ecus is the time they spent on these maps. The maps for the subaru's for example are tremendous - we've used them with a ton of different exhausts, etc and they have been spot on in terms of afr's, timing maps, etc. The only custom tunes our customers go for are when they are running larger injectors with big turbo's, etc. 85% of our AP customers simply buy it as a plug and play setup for their basic bolt on mods.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
I'm totally familiar with the instructions, all I'm saying is that for the hundreds of AP's sold, I've never had a single customer, nor have I read about anyone frying their ecu - so I think it's a non issue anda very standard disclaimer contained in their instructions.

As for the custom tuning, customers cannot purchase that software themselves. Only Cobb Pro Tuners have that software (there are lots of Pro Tuners throughout the US)

Cobb offers base maps for a generic mods, but what seperates these (traditionally) from other premapped ecus is the time they spent on these maps. The maps for the subaru's for example are tremendous - we've used them with a ton of different exhausts, etc and they have been spot on in terms of afr's, timing maps, etc. The only custom tunes our customers go for are when they are running larger injectors with big turbo's, etc. 85% of our AP customers simply buy it as a plug and play setup for their basic bolt on mods.
It looks as if the Cobb AP 1.0 is discontinued pending the relase of the AP 2.0 after SEMA..Looks as if it will have some more features, and we will nodoubtedly look into becoming PRO tuners for the VQ35 platform..Seems it will be a good solution for NA owners, in the hads of a reputable tuner with a load based dyno, to map all rpm points for a custom tune..
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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At SEMA the word is that the 350Z application will be released the first quarter of 07 so 2-5 months.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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that kinda sucks, but thanks for the heads up
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by westpak
At SEMA the word is that the 350Z application will be released the first quarter of 07 so 2-5 months.
Not what I wanted to hear.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lightner22
Not what I wanted to hear.
Me either, I wanted to try it to tune my boosted car, but they have a lot of things in the works so they do not want to release things before they are fully ready both in quality and supply. They are releasing a new access port for the Suby this month, then one for the EVO and then one for the 350Z.

From the looks of it I think it will be worth the wait.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by westpak
Me either, I wanted to try it to tune my boosted car, but they have a lot of things in the works so they do not want to release things before they are fully ready both in quality and supply. They are releasing a new access port for the Suby this month, then one for the EVO and then one for the 350Z.

From the looks of it I think it will be worth the wait.
Glad they are doing it the right way, but I'm holding off on buying any more mods til this comes out. I guess I should be thanking them instead for saving me money.
I'm very interested in seeing how well it works for you.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:37 AM
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Any one know if this will let the auto people change their tranny ecu, mod shift points, and behavior? Kinda like the tranny upgrade Stillen offers?
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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dude, shoud have boughten a 6spd. are you a woman or something?
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdog1250
dude, shoud have boughten a 6spd. are you a woman or something?
When the car was purchased 6spd was not yet available on the sedan.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdog1250
dude, shoud have boughten a 6spd. are you a woman or something?

Dude, you should have passed seventh grade english. Are you a retard or something?
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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thanks for the correction: *bought* I didn't think anyone really cared, by the way Im in AP english in case you wanted to know
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KhanMan
When the car was purchased 6spd was not yet available on the sedan.
What sedan model? Do you own a 350z? NO 4 seater was ever made...
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdog1250
thanks for the correction: *bought* I didn't think anyone really cared, by the way Im in AP english in case you wanted to know
I dont think anyone wants to know..back on topic please..
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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So, this solution should be superior to an UTEC???at least for NA applications, no?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by raditz
So, this solution should be superior to an UTEC???at least for NA applications, no?
I would never say superior..But it will be sucessful..If you look at the WRX world, you will primarily see UTEC's and Cobb AP's on 95% of the cars..It works pretty well on an ECU for an already turbocharged car, but I am curious to see how it performs in a car with an added Turbo like the Z/G.I myself have never been 100% fond of Reflashes for boosted cars..The whole RPM based tune and guess how much boost we "should" be making at any given RPM point and load, kind of scares me..I much rather prefer a good MAP based tune for F/I cars...
Either way, the Cobb AP will be very sucessful IMHO.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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I think it's MAF based tuning, no?

Not just rpm based... ???
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
I think it's MAF based tuning, no?

Not just rpm based... ???
Right..MAF based tuning on a Forced Induction car is the same as RPM based tuning IMO.Meaning once the MAF sensor sees maximum voltage, its using the maps you have tuned for WOT tune..So say you tune it to see 4.7V at a certain amount of airflow, the MAF sensor may be maxed out at that point or clamped.So say you had a nice 11.6 A/F ratio at 7-8 psi with a maf voltage of 4.7 your ok.now change altitude,Climate,air density,boost levels,back pressure (exhaust,plenume,ect..) Now with a MAF tune on a reflash of a N/A ECU with no MAP sensor, you really have no way of ensuring your tune will stay on point with your boost levels..
Now on a WRX ECU it works great cause the WRX already has a MAP sensor incorperated into it, therefore any MAF values you change are fine, cause your still getting feedback from the MAP sensor to the ECU making needed changes in the tune...
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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The way I understood it they can change the range of the MAF voltage with the Cobb so it wont max out, I saw it done on a Suby so not sure if the Nissan MAF will be the same.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by westpak
The way I understood it they can change the range of the MAF voltage with the Cobb so it wont max out, I saw it done on a Suby so not sure if the Nissan MAF will be the same.
Yes they most likely will be able to, but like I said, the Z does not have a MAP sensor stock like the SUBY does..Even the UTEC on the Suby is a MAF offset tune..
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