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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Default UTEC ------ Anything new from SEMA---- NEW GUI interface??

I heard talk that they would be releasing the new GUI for the UTEC at SEMA. Did anyone get a chance to run by their booth to see?

Im really curious about this one.

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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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It was pretty impressive...I must say.
According to Jermaine, it has a tentative release date of Q2 2007.

Nice work guys.
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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Details? hehe
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
It was pretty impressive...I must say.
According to Jermaine, it has a tentative release date of Q2 2007.

Nice work guys.

damm sharif hahaha just at least a lil inside as to what you saw on the GUI
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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damm sharif hahaha just at least a lil inside as to what you saw on the GUI
I dont think its a big secret...so here are a few teasers.

The GUI is windows based, and has a very high res map. At least enough for a 0-8000rpm 250rpm interval Y axis, with a 16-24 point Y- axis.

Translation....a lot more resolution.
It has an AF target tuning table that looked very straightfoward, and had a very polished look to it.
Oh, and my favorite: Real time tuning/interaction, which makes steady state dyno tuning a snap.
Fuel control is done via Volumetric Effeciency (VE) table, which is perfectly fine.

I will snap a few pics tomorrow and post them up, if Jermaine is OK with it.

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that be cool to see =]
thanks
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Um........ EU for sale *ANY PRICE*
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Old Nov 1, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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2nd quarter 2007?? Hmm so thats June at the latest.. Long time from now..
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
Fuel control is done via Volumetric Effeciency (VE) table, which is perfectly fine.
Where/ how did they get a VE table? I'm very curious... I have been wondering about VE tables for a long time now...
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After poking around the inside of a UTEC I noticed a few interesting things.. Its hard for me to explain but there are unused portions of the UTEC that can easily become accessible with either a flash and/or software..

As some of you know, I initially was going to have some software done to completely get rid of HT and make user interface easier for everyone.. After seeing what the UTEC was capable of, we backed off.. We had too.. We noticed there is sooo much more to the UTEC than we all see right now that we couldnt risk making a GUI and having problems with the software to where we were actually hurting peoples cars..

I knew TXS was making something and had a feeling it was going to include the 'extra' features that are in the UTEC itself..

Right now, the UTEC in my opinion is still in its Beta stages.. The new features that are coming are going to make it closer to the FCON in its features and simply put it in a class of its own.. No piggyback is gonna come close to it..
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
I will snap a few pics tomorrow and post them up, if Jermaine is OK with it.
Pics would be great man..
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
Where/ how did they get a VE table? I'm very curious... I have been wondering about VE tables for a long time now...
Most current standlones on the market offer total fuel control via one of a several methods. All of the methods accomplish exactly the same thing, its just a different way of looking at the data.

1) Pulse Width Map (fuel duration; ie 5ms of pulse width)
2) Duty Cycle Map (a % of how long the injector is open)
3) Volumetric Efficiency (a representation of how well the engine uses fuel and air.)
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I get what a VE map is (in theory at least) ... but...

So they have to *create* their own VE map, right?

How do you go about doing this?
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Originally Posted by Kenk2
After poking around the inside of a UTEC I noticed a few interesting things.. Its hard for me to explain but there are unused portions of the UTEC that can easily become accessible with either a flash and/or software..

As some of you know, I initially was going to have some software done to completely get rid of HT and make user interface easier for everyone.. After seeing what the UTEC was capable of, we backed off.. We had too.. We noticed there is sooo much more to the UTEC than we all see right now that we couldnt risk making a GUI and having problems with the software to where we were actually hurting peoples cars..

I knew TXS was making something and had a feeling it was going to include the 'extra' features that are in the UTEC itself..

Right now, the UTEC in my opinion is still in its Beta stages.. The new features that are coming are going to make it closer to the FCON in its features and simply put it in a class of its own.. No piggyback is gonna come close to it..


Like.... Wow!
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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So is there any word on the upgrade path - will it be a simple flash / software update or is hardware (more $$$) involved?
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sounds like its just a matter of loading the software to a windows version adn thats it.... the software in the background stablishes a hipertherminal connection....
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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GUI aside...

If the map resolution has increased - the increased requirement for data storage (32 x 24 instead of 10 x 10, each for 5 maps) has to go someplace that's preserved even when the power is off -> that means the hardware has to support it. Also, processing a greater of amount of data per unit time requires more processing (CPU) resources.

So my question is does the UTEC have a fast enough processor and memory (RAM and flash) in its current form (ie if you were to buy one today), that it can just "take" the update?

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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
So my question is does the UTEC have a fast enough processor and memory (RAM and flash) in its current form (ie if you were to buy one today), that it can just "take" the update?

IMHO, I would say yes.. This last year they have gotten their share of issues and have pretty much resolved most of the bugs they have encountered. The 'hardware' that TXS uses is all standard computer chip techie stuff.. From here on out, the UTEC is ONLY GONNA GET BETTER.. Again, this is just an opinion and I have absolutely 0 involvement with TXS.. I am glad I purchased it as it has done what I need it to do and will continue to do so.. It could change my mind about the FCON if it does in fact do what I think it will.. I dont know, we will all see..hopefully sooner than later..
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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 11:51 AM
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I for one really enjoy the UTEC and what it is able to do. Im just not much on Hyperterminal. If they are upgrading the interface to something more user friendly i will be a happy tuner

Just wish i did not have to wait so long to see it, but atleast they see the demand for it.

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Old Nov 2, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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the goal is to make tunning easier and more friendly than the hiper terminal interface. SEcond is exploid teh capabilities the utec already have, with a better written software... Just as my buddy kent mentions.. i do think this will put the utec top of the list of EMS bieng faar more superior than all with out being an standlone like FCON PRO,
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