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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenk2
I dont want to drudge up other issues from the past in this thread.. Lets stay on topic..

How about this.. I will pay extra for a new update that has a bigger resolution.. Hell I dont care about the GUI..
All I can say is keep checking with Turbo XS, their new GUI will most likely be a free update...
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
All I can say is keep checking with Turbo XS, their new GUI will most likely be a free update...
Hope they do it soon....or I'm selling the UTEC and buying a VPRO.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Hope they do it soon....or I'm selling the UTEC and buying a VPRO.
That make ssence..Sell your sub $1000 Engine management for a loss, because it does not have a pretty bells and whistles interface..Then go spend $3000 for someone to install and tune an Fcon with an interface that is pimp, but you will neve lay your eyes on...lol
People are so funny..
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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hydra, cipher, cobb - all possibilities for the near future though, no?

the UTEC still hits a nice sweet spot, until the reflash software gets out where you can tune your stock ecu for NA and mild FI applications - then it's all over unless turboxs can compete...

i hope they get their act together. i've sent turboxs a few inquiries through their website. they have never responded back once.

they've got strong supporters like MRC - that means something but it'll be hard to keep waiting once a similarly priced solution comes out.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rcdash
hydra, cipher, cobb - all possibilities for the near future though, no?

the UTEC still hits a nice sweet spot, until the reflash software gets out where you can tune your stock ecu for NA and mild FI applications - then it's all over unless turboxs can compete...

i hope they get their act together. i've sent turboxs a few inquiries through their website. they have never responded back once.

they've got strong supporters like MRC - that means something but it'll be hard to keep waiting once a similarly priced solution comes out.
Keep in mind and ECU reflash will have it limitations..I will be nice to utilize different MAF sensors and injectors and scale the MAF curve for the injectors, similar to what Sniper does for the Fords..You can have a procharged Ford Mustang running optimal in a mere half hour tops with their software..
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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When someone releases a programmer or a program to reflash the stock ECU its game over for all of the piggy back systems. It is possible to change the offsets in the stock ECU and use something like a mafterburner, this way you can use a larger MAF scaled for large injectors. I have been talking to some places about doing this. I chose a utec because i can change the settings myself. Why would I pay 3500$ for a FCON when I can in no way change settings on it, and pay 700$+ for each retune when i modify my car?
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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The only problem I see with a reflash of the ecu is it still doesn't see boost. Tunning it will still be limited to low boost.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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not exactly, If you have a large enough MAF that you don't max it out, you'll be able to plan for overboosting, etc.

The UTEC works so well because of its map sensor feedback.........you can look at datalogs and see that the maf is maxed out pretty quickly.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremybudd
I'm in Utah and have a UTEC. Can't figure out a way to get the P1444 code to stop coming up. I am in SLC and it seems to be the higher altitude you go the chances get better that you will have the same code come up. You might want to stay away from the Utec for now just for that reason. Multiple people in Denver have the same code as I do.
Yeah, I'm in Colorado Springs (altitude 6k) and have the same problem. Haven't been able to figure it out yet. However, it doesn't have any effect on the actual running of the engine, or the UTEC control. It's only a problem if you have to get emissions checked, or if you hate having that SES light glaring at you.

If anyone ever gets a solution, be sure to post it!

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I could see the new GUI interface being a software/firmware issue that could be handled by a simple upgrade.

It seems to me the the new increased granularity would also have to be accompanied by new UTEC hardware. That would necessitate a completely new UTEC box, wouldn't it?

If the new GUI and increased granularity are to be released as a single unit, you might think that it would require a complete upgrade.
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Originally Posted by __jb
I could see the new GUI interface being a software/firmware issue that could be handled by a simple upgrade.

It seems to me the the new increased granularity would also have to be accompanied by new UTEC hardware. That would necessitate a completely new UTEC box, wouldn't it?

If the new GUI and increased granularity are to be released as a single unit, you might think that it would require a complete upgrade.
Not at all, the Current 350Z UTEC is far more advance than most give credit to..
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
That make ssence..Sell your sub $1000 Engine management for a loss, because it does not have a pretty bells and whistles interface..Then go spend $3000 for someone to install and tune an Fcon with an interface that is pimp, but you will neve lay your eyes on...lol
People are so funny..
sell my UTEC for exactly what I paid for it (I bought it used). Buy an stand alone to avoid complications like limp mode and have piece of mine that the car is running better with more than 3 times the resolution than the UTEC. Cheap insurance if you ask me. Not dumping $30k in the car to have the second best management for the Z.
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Originally Posted by Old School
Buy an stand alone to avoid complications like limp mode and have piece of mine that the car is running better with more than 3 times the resolution than the UTEC.
Your "limp mode" has nothing to do with the resolution of the UTEC or the UTEC itself.Your "LIMP MODE" is related to some other issue either you or your tuner does not understand..I have tuned many many UTECS and have not seen one unit cause the car go into limp mode..You have a different issue in your car.PM me the details and perhaps I could help you narrow it down.

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sell my UTEC for exactly what I paid for it (I bought it used).
Cheap insurance if you ask me. Not dumping $30k in the car to have the second best management for the Z.
But youll buy a second HAND Engine management on your 30K car..LOL's..How do you know that the unit was good?Perhaps the original owner damaged it?
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports
Your "limp mode" has nothing to do with the resolution of the UTEC or the UTEC itself.Your "LIMP MODE" is related to some other issue either you or your tuner does not understand..I have tuned many many UTECS and have not seen one unit cause the car go into limp mode..You have a different issue in your car.PM me the details and perhaps I could help you narrow it down.


But youll buy a second HAND Engine management on your 30K car..LOL's..How do you know that the unit was good?Perhaps the original owner damaged it?
Never said resolution and limp mode had anything to do with one another. Alot of people experience the limp mode issue. I don't (and have yet to) experience this problem. And considering Mark @ SGP and Jermaine @ TXS tuned my UTEC, I seriously doubt I have tuner issues. I have a degree in electronics that I don't even use. I know what resolution is bro.

And I bought a USED UTEC to tune my nitrous. Some guy bought it, the shop didn't want to even try to tune it and they sold him a VPRO. At this point I haven't spent $30K yet. I am in the process of doing that hince the reason for this thread. Mark checked it out and made sure everything was ok. No sense in buying a UTEC new when I can pick up a perfect one for a fraction of the cost (that was never installed BTW) and have it checked out by TXS themselves. If I were boosting, I might have went another route, but I was using nitrous...so a used UTEC was right up my alley. Read a little into my post without making assumptions and you will understand other members a little better, Julian. Just FYI.

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Originally Posted by Old School
Never said resolution and limp mode had anything to do with one another. Alot of people experience the limp mode issue. I don't (and have yet to) experience this problem. And considering Mark @ SGP and Jermaine @ TXS tuned my UTEC, I seriously doubt I have tuner issues. I have a degree in electronics that I don't even use. I know what resolution is bro.
Last time I talked to Jermaine, he never went down to SGP and tuned a UTEC there, I will ask him today if he did when I talk to him..We speak on a daily basis, he is a personal friend of mine.Also, your degree in electronics has very little to do with the issue at hand, when were discussing Automotive tuning and your need for a better UTEC GUI.
Perhaps I misunderstood your comments. Anyone reading your previous comments of:
Originally Posted by Old School
Hope they do it soon....or I'm selling the UTEC and buying a VPRO.
Originally Posted by Old School
Buy an stand alone to avoid complications like limp mode and have piece of mine that the car is running better with more than 3 times the resolution than the UTEC. Not dumping $30k in the car to have the second best management for the Z.
Would be led to believe the following:
1) you are unhappy with your UTEC
2) you feel the increased resolution would resolve issues like LIMP mode.
3) you feel the UTEC is a second hand engine management.

Correct me if this is not exactly what your trying to say? So that I may better suit an answer or response for you..AnD once again, I am not trying to pick an internet fight with you or anyone, Im simply trying to understand better what the issue you feel you have with the UTEC and why a $3000 Standalone would solve your issue?

Originally Posted by Old School
And I bought a USED UTEC to tune my nitrous. Some guy bought it, the shop didn't want to even try to tune it and they sold him a VPRO. At this point I haven't spent $30K yet. I am in the process of doing that hince the reason for this thread. Mark checked it out and made sure everything was ok. No sense in buying a UTEC new when I can pick up a perfect one for a fraction of the cost (that was never installed BTW) and have it checked out by TXS themselves.
This makes perfect fiscal sence, I can not disagree if the price was right.
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If I were boosting, I might have went another route, but I was using nitrous...so a used UTEC was right up my alley. Read a little into my post without making assumptions and you will understand other members a little better, Julian. Just FYI.
I did read into your post, and as quoted above, its pretty cut and dry what you stated..Did I misunderstand or miss something??
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Another one bites the dust...

Im interested in the resolution upgrade, I could care less about the GUI's...I feel the UTEC is powerful enough to handle my car, just needs better resolution to keep me 100% satisfied. Id also like the 2 step off the line, and the flat foot shift feature would be nice to keep shock off the drivetrain when dragging-but, I have yet to see anybody on these forums use those features.
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Another one bites the dust...

Im interested in the resolution upgrade, I could care less about the GUI's...I feel the UTEC is powerful enough to handle my car, just needs better resolution to keep me 100% satisfied. Id also like the 2 step off the line, and the flat foot shift feature would be nice to keep shock off the drivetrain when dragging-but, I have yet to see anybody on these forums use those features.
+ 1,000,000

Could care less about the GUI.. They're overated.. Better resolution and 2 step off the line FTMFW...
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenk2
+ 1,000,000

Could care less about the GUI.. They're overated.. Better resolution and 2 step off the line FTMFW...
Alberto is on my ignore list, so I could not see his above post you quoted..However, this is the first time I 100% fully and undisputedly agree with Alberto..He is 100% correct in his postings...
The end of the world must be near..
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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LMAO-those nerdy science guys must be right, end of the world is Wednesday!
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For launch control you can use the MSD 2 step.
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