UTEC, Tuning and Knock Questions
04-15-2007 | 02:11 PM
#1
UTEC, Tuning and Knock Questions
More code in 2nd post, along with my questions, concerns
Thanks
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Code:
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DATA1
Load Knock Mod Mod Mod WB
RPM MAP MAF TPS Site Count Inj#1 Ign#1 Inj#1 Ign Fuel MAF AFR
psia V % mS deg duty deg % V
1681 -12.2 1.23 1 00 00 0.49 -5.5 0.6 ECU. +0.0 1.03 >25:1
1683 -12.0 1.21 2 00 00 0.49 -5.5 0.6 ECU. +0.0 1.09 >25:1
1670 -12.2 1.21 2 00 00 0.49 -5.5 0.6 ECU. +0.0 1.05 >25:1
1658 -11.9 1.56 42 00 00 1.47 +10.5 5.1 ECU. +0.0 1.54 >25:1
1662 -9.4 2.74 98 00 00 2.47 +26.5 4.7 ECU. +0.0 2.98 >25:1
1898 -1.5 3.23 101 00 00 7.50 +18.5 11.6 ECU. +0.0 2.58 >25:1
1549 -1.2 2.76 102 00 00 7.60 +27.6 11.3 ECU. +0.0 2.39 >25:1
1815 -1.2 2.90 103 00 00 7.33 +11.7 10.7 ECU. +0.0 2.52 24.15
1665 -1.1 2.72 102 00 00 7.29 +26.7 10.3 ECU. +0.0 2.47 15.94
1751 -1.0 2.94 101 00 00 7.20 +19.7 10.7 ECU. +0.0 2.47 13.39
1759 -0.8 2.78 103 10 00 7.35 +25.4 10.6 ECU. +0.0 2.54 13.39
1769 -0.7 2.98 103 10 00 7.32 +21.6 11.0 ECU. +0.0 2.56 13.62
1817 -0.6 3.03 102 10 00 7.54 +20.7 11.3 ECU. +0.0 2.60 13.92
1874 -0.5 3.00 102 10 00 7.74 +17.6 11.7 ECU. +0.0 2.66 14.08
1903 -0.4 3.01 103 10 00 7.85 +17.5 12.1 ECU. +0.0 2.66 13.97
1874 -0.3 3.00 103 10 00 7.95 +17.5 12.4 ECU. +0.0 2.66 13.84
1937 -0.2 3.03 103 10 00 7.95 +16.5 12.5 ECU. +0.0 2.70 13.56
1984 +0.0 3.11 102 10 00 8.30 +14.4 13.4 ECU. +0.0 2.76 13.33
1963 +0.1 3.19 102 10 00 8.41 +14.6 14.2 ECU. +0.0 2.72 13.20
2039 +0.2 3.23 103 10 00 8.86 +15.5 14.7 ECU. +0.0 2.78 13.03
2066 +0.3 3.27 103 10 00 10.45 +15.7 17.1 ECU. +0.0 2.84 12.92
2121 +0.5 3.21 102 10 00 10.58 +15.3 18.5 +20.6 +0.0 2.86 12.00
2025 +0.6 3.27 102 20 00 10.85 +14.6 18.9 +23.6 +0.0 2.84 11.05
2160 +0.7 3.31 103 20 00 11.00 +14.4 19.3 +23.2 +0.0 2.96 10.46
2109 +0.8 3.33 103 20 00 11.14 +14.3 20.2 +22.6 +0.0 2.88 10.09
2145 +1.0 3.39 102 20 00 11.30 +13.6 20.7 +22.6 +0.0 2.96 10.30
2192 +1.2 3.43 102 20 00 11.43 +14.6 21.3 +22.2 +0.0 2.94 10.65
2206 +1.2 3.41 103 20 00 11.56 +14.6 21.7 +22.2 +0.0 3.03 10.86
2297 +1.3 3.47 103 20 00 11.69 +13.4 21.8 +21.9 +0.0 3.05 10.90
2319 +1.4 3.49 102 20 00 11.86 +13.4 22.9 +22.0 +0.0 3.03 10.93
2345 +1.5 3.54 103 20 00 11.79 +11.4 22.6 +21.8 +0.0 3.05 10.90
2335 +1.6 3.58 104 30 00 11.86 +12.2 23.5 +21.7 +0.0 3.05 10.89
2374 +1.9 3.56 104 30 00 11.88 +12.6 23.9 +21.6 +0.0 3.11 10.90
2401 +2.0 3.54 104 30 00 11.88 +14.5 24.1 +21.4 +0.0 3.11 10.93
2440 +2.1 3.58 102 30 00 11.85 +13.3 24.1 +21.3 +0.0 3.15 10.95
2506 +2.2 3.60 103 30 00 11.84 +13.5 24.3 +21.1 +0.0 3.13 10.95
2487 +2.4 3.64 103 30 00 11.94 +13.3 25.1 +21.1 +0.0 3.07 10.96
2560 +2.4 3.60 103 30 00 11.89 +13.4 25.4 +20.9 +0.0 3.15 10.99
2604 +2.5 3.70 102 30 00 11.99 +13.5 26.0 +20.5 +0.0 3.17 11.02
2624 +2.6 3.66 101 30 00 12.00 +14.4 26.3 +20.3 +0.0 3.17 11.08
2649 +2.6 3.70 103 30 00 12.11 +14.5 27.1 +20.2 +0.0 3.21 11.06
2662 +2.8 3.70 103 30 00 12.22 +15.3 27.1 +19.7 +0.0 3.25 11.05
2699 +2.9 3.72 101 40 00 12.33 +15.4 28.2 +19.5 +0.0 3.25 11.01
2730 +2.9 3.78 102 40 00 12.44 +15.4 28.2 +19.3 +0.0 3.29 10.95
2773 +3.1 3.76 103 40 00 12.50 +15.3 28.5 +18.9 +0.0 3.29 10.93
2815 +3.2 3.86 103 40 00 12.53 +17.4 29.0 +18.9 +0.0 3.31 10.86
2829 +3.3 3.88 101 40 00 12.38 +17.3 29.2 +18.7 +0.0 3.33 10.86
2841 +3.3 3.92 102 40 00 12.35 +17.3 29.8 +18.6 +0.0 3.35 10.90
2911 +3.5 3.92 103 40 00 12.37 +17.3 29.6 +18.6 +0.0 3.33 10.93
2929 +3.6 3.94 103 40 00 12.43 +16.3 30.8 +18.4 +0.0 3.39 11.02
2944 +3.6 3.98 101 40 00 12.54 +16.4 31.5 +18.2 +0.0 3.43 11.11
2986 +3.9 4.00 102 40 02 12.67 +17.3 32.1 +17.7 +0.0 3.45 11.12
3038 +3.9 4.01 102 50 00 12.99 +15.3 33.3 +17.5 +0.0 3.47 11.17
3135 +4.1 4.00 103 50 00 13.42 +15.3 34.3 +17.2 +0.0 3.49 11.17
3100 +4.3 4.05 103 50 00 13.64 +16.2 35.9 +17.1 +0.0 3.49 11.08
3171 +4.5 4.11 102 50 00 13.74 +15.2 36.1 +16.8 +0.0 3.56 10.96
3211 +4.5 4.13 103 50 00 13.86 +16.2 36.9 +16.6 +0.0 3.60 10.86
3252 +4.8 4.13 102 50 00 13.99 +17.3 37.6 +16.3 +0.0 3.60 10.76
3261 +5.1 4.23 103 50 00 14.12 +17.3 38.7 +15.9 +0.0 3.64 10.68
3297 +5.2 4.27 101 60 00 14.10 +17.2 38.7 +15.7 +0.0 3.68 10.68
3340 +5.4 4.27 101 60 00 14.08 +16.2 39.7 +15.5 +0.0 3.78 10.76
3390 +5.8 4.35 103 60 00 14.31 +16.3 40.8 +15.4 +0.0 3.76 10.78
3450 +5.9 4.33 103 60 00 14.43 +16.3 41.5 +15.2 +0.0 3.74 10.89
3465 +6.1 4.37 101 60 00 14.47 +15.3 41.5 +15.2 +0.0 3.80 10.96
3542 +6.1 4.35 101 70 00 14.60 +16.2 43.0 +15.1 +0.0 3.78 11.02
3508 +6.3 4.39 103 70 00 14.67 +16.2 43.1 +15.0 +0.0 3.74 11.11
3538 +6.4 4.47 103 70 00 14.78 +14.1 44.0 +14.9 +0.0 3.78 11.12
3588 +6.6 4.49 101 70 00 14.79 +14.1 44.6 +14.8 +0.0 3.82 11.17
3627 +6.7 4.39 102 70 00 14.90 +14.3 45.2 +14.7 +0.0 3.86 11.12
3741 +6.7 4.47 103 70 00 15.00 +14.2 46.7 +14.6 +0.0 3.82 11.12
3753 +6.9 4.54 102 70 00 15.11 +15.2 48.0 +14.4 +0.0 3.84 11.12
3770 +6.9 4.56 102 70 00 15.23 +15.3 48.6 +14.3 +0.0 3.84 11.12
3796 +6.9 4.60 103 70 00 15.28 +16.2 49.0 +14.3 +0.0 3.94 11.14
3903 +6.9 4.68 103 70 00 15.32 +15.2 50.0 +14.3 +0.0 3.96 11.17
3871 +7.0 4.62 104 70 00 15.48 +16.2 50.3 +14.4 +0.0 3.92 11.14
3977 +7.1 4.60 104 70 00 15.52 +15.1 50.7 +14.3 +0.0 3.92 11.17
4006 +7.1 4.66 101 70 00 15.57 +16.1 51.6 +14.3 +0.0 4.01 11.18
04-15-2007 | 02:17 PM
#2
Can someone lend me some insight on how I can remove the knock.. Can I simply add more fuel without removing timing? For the life of me I cannot get rid of the knock in any run/ log.. I try removing timing and I still get nowhere.. if I remove too much timing it does get rid of it but the car pretty much acts like its knocking and the UTEC removes the timing itself.. I have to pull like 2 degrees to completely remove the knock..
I am not asking anyone to give me their secrets but lending me a little knowledge would be great fellas and much appreciated..
I had my car right around 11.4 a/f then added some fuel among the whole entire map and it brought me to the 10's which was kinda wierd.. Anyways so I might be a little rich and will maybe take a little fuel out so I am like 11.2 or so when all is said and done.. Just the knock is frustrating as all hell lol..
Thanks for any input..
K
I am not asking anyone to give me their secrets but lending me a little knowledge would be great fellas and much appreciated..
I had my car right around 11.4 a/f then added some fuel among the whole entire map and it brought me to the 10's which was kinda wierd.. Anyways so I might be a little rich and will maybe take a little fuel out so I am like 11.2 or so when all is said and done.. Just the knock is frustrating as all hell lol..
Thanks for any input..
K
Code:
4095 +7.1 4.78 102 70 00 15.59 +16.2 52.5 +14.5 +0.0 3.98 11.14 4120 +7.1 4.66 103 70 00 15.51 +16.2 52.9 +14.6 +0.0 4.00 11.12 4145 +6.9 4.76 103 70 00 15.40 +16.1 52.8 +14.6 +0.0 4.03 11.05 4166 +6.9 4.70 101 70 00 15.40 +15.2 53.8 +14.6 +0.0 4.01 11.01 4246 +6.9 4.70 102 70 00 15.28 +15.3 53.9 +14.8 +0.0 4.09 11.01 4284 +6.8 4.72 103 70 00 15.23 +15.1 54.1 +14.8 +0.0 4.00 11.02 4268 +6.7 4.82 102 70 00 15.31 +13.1 53.9 +15.0 +0.0 4.03 11.11 4357 +6.7 4.76 101 70 00 15.25 +12.1 55.4 +14.9 +0.0 4.15 11.11 4415 +6.6 4.82 102 70 00 15.54 +14.1 56.7 +15.0 +0.0 4.03 11.14 4409 +6.4 4.88 103 70 00 15.45 +14.0 61.5 +15.0 +0.0 4.09 11.12 4456 +6.4 4.84 102 70 00 15.63 +12.0 58.1 +14.9 +0.0 4.03 11.05 4486 +6.3 4.82 101 70 00 15.25 +12.2 57.5 +15.2 +0.0 4.05 11.11 4559 +6.1 4.82 101 70 00 15.40 +11.1 57.5 +15.1 +0.0 4.05 11.06 4566 +6.0 4.84 102 60 00 15.29 +12.0 57.7 +15.2 +0.0 4.09 11.06 4655 +5.9 4.84 102 60 00 15.11 +10.9 58.3 +15.5 +0.0 4.11 11.11 4668 +5.8 4.80 103 60 00 15.04 +12.9 58.2 +15.6 +0.0 4.07 11.11 4675 +5.8 4.84 101 60 00 15.22 +13.0 60.3 +15.6 +0.0 4.07 11.12 4741 +6.0 5.00 102 60 00 15.58 +12.9 61.3 +15.3 +0.0 4.13 11.12 4810 +6.6 5.00 102 70 00 16.07 +13.0 64.1 +14.9 +0.0 4.15 11.17 4796 +6.9 5.00 102 70 00 16.28 +14.9 65.5 +14.7 +0.0 4.17 11.17 4880 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 16.18 +14.9 65.8 +14.7 +0.0 4.17 11.12 4930 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.83 +15.2 64.4 +14.8 +0.0 4.17 11.12 4916 +6.8 5.00 102 70 00 15.78 +13.9 64.7 +14.9 +0.0 4.17 11.08 4975 +6.9 5.00 102 70 00 15.57 +13.9 64.5 +15.0 +0.0 4.09 11.11 5136 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.37 +15.0 64.7 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.17 5042 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.61 +14.0 66.1 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.27 5120 +6.9 5.00 102 70 00 15.76 +14.2 67.1 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.34 5151 +7.0 5.00 102 70 00 15.81 +13.1 67.6 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.37 5208 +7.0 5.00 101 70 00 15.84 +12.9 68.7 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.37 5208 +7.0 5.00 101 70 00 15.78 +13.8 68.5 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.30 5282 +7.0 5.00 102 70 00 15.88 +18.0 69.7 +14.8 +0.0 4.09 11.27 5307 +7.0 5.00 102 70 00 15.86 +17.9 70.1 +14.7 +0.0 4.09 11.23 5316 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.78 +17.9 69.8 +14.7 +0.0 4.09 11.23 5359 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.73 +18.0 70.0 +15.0 +0.0 4.09 11.23 5367 +7.0 5.00 102 70 00 15.71 +17.8 70.5 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.18 5455 +6.7 5.00 102 70 00 15.71 +18.9 71.2 +15.0 +0.0 4.09 11.23 5473 +7.1 5.00 102 70 00 15.70 +18.8 71.4 +14.6 +0.0 4.09 11.27 5446 +6.7 5.00 102 70 01 15.64 +17.9 71.7 +14.4 +0.0 4.15 11.27 5602 +6.7 5.00 103 70 00 15.65 +18.0 73.2 +14.4 +0.0 4.15 11.33 5621 +6.8 5.00 103 70 00 15.51 +19.0 72.7 +14.4 +0.0 4.15 11.33 5649 +7.0 5.00 103 70 00 15.52 +18.9 72.6 +14.2 +0.0 4.15 11.34 5668 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.51 +18.8 73.3 +14.5 +0.0 4.15 11.39 5688 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.43 +18.9 73.2 +14.5 +0.0 4.15 11.39 5688 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.45 +18.9 74.3 +14.5 +0.0 4.15 11.42 5797 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.41 +19.4 74.4 +14.3 +0.0 4.15 11.39 5837 +7.1 5.00 101 70 00 15.40 +19.4 74.7 +14.7 +0.0 4.15 11.37 5827 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.39 +20.7 74.9 +14.2 +0.0 4.15 11.34 5878 +7.1 5.00 101 70 00 15.33 +20.8 75.4 +14.6 +0.0 4.15 11.33 5931 +7.0 5.00 101 70 00 15.33 +20.7 75.5 +14.3 +0.0 4.15 11.33 5963 +6.7 5.00 101 70 00 15.32 +20.9 76.1 +14.3 +0.0 4.15 11.30 5973 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.25 +21.9 76.6 +14.4 +0.0 4.09 11.30 6016 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.25 +22.1 76.8 +14.8 +0.0 4.09 11.33 6038 +7.0 5.00 101 70 00 15.31 +22.9 77.6 +14.7 +0.0 4.09 11.34 6027 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.31 +23.1 77.9 +14.9 +0.0 4.09 11.37 6150 +6.7 5.00 101 70 00 15.26 +23.0 77.4 +14.8 +0.0 4.09 11.37 6172 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.26 +22.8 78.5 +15.3 +0.0 4.09 11.34 6184 +7.5 5.00 101 70 03 15.26 +22.9 78.5 +9.2 +0.0 4.09 11.33 6195 +6.9 5.00 101 70 00 15.26 +22.6 79.2 +9.6 +0.0 4.09 11.28 6265 +7.3 5.00 101 70 00 15.53 +22.8 81.6 +15.4 +0.0 4.09 11.27 6265 +6.7 5.00 101 70 00 15.56 +22.6 81.1 +15.6 +0.0 4.09 11.27 6313 +7.2 5.00 101 70 00 15.51 +23.8 81.9 +15.9 +0.0 4.09 11.28 6325 +7.1 5.00 101 70 00 15.50 +23.7 81.6 +15.7 +0.0 4.09 11.27 6373 +6.6 5.00 101 70 00 15.60 +23.5 83.5 +15.7 +0.0 4.09 11.23 6397 +6.6 5.00 103 70 00 15.64 +23.9 83.3 +16.0 +0.0 4.09 11.20 6459 +6.7 5.00 101 70 00 15.68 +23.6 84.1 +15.9 +0.0 4.09 11.14 6459 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.80 +24.7 85.9 +15.9 +0.0 4.09 11.08 6485 +6.4 5.00 101 70 00 15.75 +25.6 84.5 +16.1 +0.0 4.09 11.01 6472 +6.8 5.00 101 70 00 15.80 +25.8 85.6 +16.1 +0.0 4.09 10.95 6574 +7.2 5.00 101 70 00 15.86 +25.6 86.9 +16.6 +0.0 4.09 10.86 6600 +7.1 5.00 101 70 00 15.80 +25.7 87.1 +16.1 +0.0 4.09 10.87 6666 +6.6 5.00 101 70 00 15.69 +26.0 85.3 +16.4 +0.0 4.09 11.17 6720 +6.0 5.00 101 60 03 15.57 +26.8 86.5 +11.3 +0.0 4.09 11.73 6720 +6.3 5.00 32 60 00 15.48 +25.8 87.1 +11.4 +0.0 4.09 12.93 6385 -5.9 2.23 0 10 00 11.72 +13.6 61.4 Ecu. +0.0 1.96 13.39 6472 -9.9 2.00 0 10 00 12.30 +13.8 67.0 Ecu. +0.0 1.50 13.75 6422 -10.3 1.94 0 10 00 12.05 +13.9 7.6 Ecu. +0.0 1.78 12.39 6207 -11.2 1.78 1 00 00 1.35 +13.9 6.6 Ecu. +0.0 1.50 11.52 6038 -12.3 2.00 2 00 00 1.34 +13.9 6.3 Ecu. +0.0 1.52 10.12
04-16-2007 | 05:19 AM
#5
you might try lowering them down.....take 5 off each number from 3000 on up......
also, if you look at your logs, wherever you have a knock, the ECU is not pulling timing. That leads me to believe that the UTEC settings are too sensitive. IF the ECU were pulling timing , too....then, you know you have a real knock event.
also, if you look at your logs, wherever you have a knock, the ECU is not pulling timing. That leads me to believe that the UTEC settings are too sensitive. IF the ECU were pulling timing , too....then, you know you have a real knock event.
Last edited by QuadCam; 04-16-2007 at 05:30 AM.
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04-16-2007 | 09:40 AM
#8
Originally Posted by Kenk2
Fellas..
I didnt even think to look and see if the ECU was pulling timing..
I will lower the numbers of course and see if that helps.. Thanks alot for the input..
Ken
I didnt even think to look and see if the ECU was pulling timing..
I will lower the numbers of course and see if that helps.. Thanks alot for the input..Ken
04-16-2007 | 06:30 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Sisith
It did pull timing on the last one in the 6000 rpm range...check that out first bro
04-16-2007 | 07:58 PM
#11
hey man, i think you might have a bit too much timing in there.
change the setting on your knock parameters so that the knock count threshold is 4
then it has to knock a 04 to actually pull timing
your stock timing is being pulled down low. keep your timing up high around 14-15 degrees max up top and around 13 at 4500
probably not making any more power over that anyways
change the setting on your knock parameters so that the knock count threshold is 4
then it has to knock a 04 to actually pull timing
your stock timing is being pulled down low. keep your timing up high around 14-15 degrees max up top and around 13 at 4500
probably not making any more power over that anyways
04-17-2007 | 06:26 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
hey man, i think you might have a bit too much timing in there.
change the setting on your knock parameters so that the knock count threshold is 4
then it has to knock a 04 to actually pull timing
your stock timing is being pulled down low. keep your timing up high around 14-15 degrees max up top and around 13 at 4500
probably not making any more power over that anyways
change the setting on your knock parameters so that the knock count threshold is 4
then it has to knock a 04 to actually pull timing
your stock timing is being pulled down low. keep your timing up high around 14-15 degrees max up top and around 13 at 4500
probably not making any more power over that anyways
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