It's officially out in Japan. Check out hks-power.co.jp, it is going to make the F-Con iS/SZ user tuneable, and i think it might work with the V-Pro aswell. Check it out!

 

werd. Looking forward to seeing this up an running.

 

that means we wont be locked out of it, and there will be more available tuners then correct?? i take it this is a standalone? and whats the price vs. the fcon?

 

The CAMP2 is not meant to replace the F-Con unit. It is monitoring like what you get with the F Con iS, but with a few more things and features, only now you will be able to monitor even if you've got a V-Pro. All the CAMP 2 does is allows you to tune your F Con management, although i'm sure only to a certain degree.
This doesn't mean there will be more certified tuners available, it just means that other tuners may be able to tweek a tune that is already there, but at the risk that they don't actually know what they are doing. I think it is more designed for people that have already got a tune from a dealer, but they just need to tweek it on the fly, or at the track.
I think MSRP will be 495, but undoubtedly you will be able to find it cheaper.

 

it does not allow for any tuning at all as far as I'm aware by the end user on a V Pro other than boost. V Pro's are always only tunable by a certified HKS Tuner. Even the Is and Sz only allow very limited tuning by an end user as I recall....still needs a professional to perform all the functions

 

Sorry for a n00b question, but how is this any different than the FCON Navigator that everyone uses? Could it be used in conjunction with the FCON Navigator, and could it be used in conjunction with the Knock Amp? You say you can adjust boost with it, so does it make my HKS EVC 6 obsolete then?

 

That is what i said. It is tuneable to a certain degree, but you still need a good tune in the first place. HKS USA has informed me that, there thinking about incorporating the user tunability to the V-Pro, but there still deciding. I don't know if the japanese version does or doesn't tune the V-Pro, as i can't read japanese, but it does mention the V-Pro on their website

 

I've been told that it's WAY better the the navigator, and that it will render the navigator obsolete. It has a gazillion more functions than the navigator aswell.

 

So the Haltech's presence is having a ripple effect... That's a win for consumers.

 

well, with the Navigator, the non Pro versions were always user tunable I believe, through the Navigator, by the end user, but again, to a very limited scale. The V Pro is mentioned in the literature because that is what most of the Camp2 Functions were designed to integrate with (boost, etc), though the Camp2 in and of itself is a standalone unit, which can be installed into any car (like the Camp1 was).
This is what it allows for (via stock sensors):

SPEED
RPM
WATER TEMP
IGNITION
INTAKE TEMP
THROTTLE POSITION
O2 VOLT
AIR FLOW
INJECTOR
BATTERY
POWER
A/F
KNOCK
BOOST
ECONOMY

Then there are interface sensors, which require the purchase of an interface control box (just like the previous version, and then the purchase of separate sensor sets)

WATER w/sensor set required)
OIL TEMP w/sensor set required)
OIL PRESSURE w/sensor set required)
FUEL PRESSURE w/sensor set required)
EXHAUST TEMP w/sensor set required)

It also does datalogging (I think 10 minutes worth but I can't quite understand the text). It does mention closed loop boost control, and some form of fuel and ignition control, but I "think" (I can't quite understand the text) it is geared around maximizing fuel economy. I can't see HKS unlocking the F Con to anyone to use without the Pro Shop, but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Also requires purchase of an LCD screen

nice install shot into a Z...looks awesome Imagine that behind a motorized nav door




I know the offer car specific harnesses for a variety of cars as well now, which is nice, which allow it to read the factory rom. I have no idea if they plan this for US spec cars or not though, as it's still brand new in Japan.

Video from (I assume) the Auto Salon

http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=KtsFc_QZYiY

 

Cool. Thanks for that.
I've been told that they will be making it for the US market too, but it won't be coming out until mid year i believe. I've been told there contemplating a few tweeks for the american market. Should be something to look forward to.

 

^^Cool... the gooy looks horrible - very commodore 64. wish they could make it look more like the pioneer vdp-1 - but informative none the less. - thanks.

 

The CAMP 2 doesn't come with the monitor. It will hook up to whatever screen you choose as long as it has AV input.

 

I think the GUI looks awesome actually.....it's light years ahead of the original Camp and really clean/simple with big bold #'s. This thing has like a million screens to, so you can set it up to suit your tastes

 

ahhhh man I hope it will do boost control!! subscribing to this thread. any inside info from any of the Pro Installers?

 

If someone leaked the software on the net, it would maybe make them do it. I'm truly suprised that no one has done that yet.

 

http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=3474

The long-awaited return of HKS' CAMP system is now a reality with the release of CAMP2. CAMP2 is an all-in-one engine multi-meter system that is incorporated with a vehicle's on-board factory or aftermarket monitor.

The launch of the CAMP2 comes just as HKS celebrates its 35th Anniversary. The first generation CAMP was released by HKS in 1996. At that time, it was the first monitoring system of its kind allowing users to view vehicle engine information. During the time of CAMP's initial release, on-board factory monitors were still rarities in cars available in North America and aftermarket units were not as commonly seen as they are today. CAMP2 will be available for purchase worldwide on February 25, 2008.

TECHNICAL INFORMATION:

• Users can view up to 6 simultaneous readings while monitoring up to 24 data signals
from the vehicles OBD2 port and optional HKS Sensors.

• Installation is simple and connects to the vehicle's self-diagnostic OBD2 port enabling the
CAMP2 to function on a variety of vehicles and applications.

• CAMP2’s menu features are user switchable to Metric or SAE readings according to user
region.

• ECO Drive – Programmable calculations for fuel costs, average fuel consumption, and
fuel efficiency lets the user monitor real time data readings.

• An included remote control allows the user to switch between functions and modes.
The remote control receiver is separate from the base unit allowing convenient,
user friendly placement.

• CAMP2 allows map editing for the F-CON S/SZ/iS.
Map editing can be done only for unlocked maps; please consult with your Certified HKS
Pro Dealer.

Nissan vehicles require the optional CONSULT harness and vehicles equipped with an
HKS F-Con S/SZ/iS and V-Pro can purchase an optional HKS F-CON connection harness* for
additional monitoring features.
(*For vehicles equipped with the HKS F-Con S/SZ/iS and V-Pro Engine Management system)

• Real time fuel efficiency can be monitored relative to time, distance and speed.

• Up to 6 readings can be displayed on the screen at one time: TIME (Elapsed Time),
DISTANCE (Driving distance), SPEED (Average speed), FUEL (Consumed fuel volume),
ECO (Average fuel efficiency), COST (Fuel cost).

• Real-time fuel efficiency is shown as a bar graph on the bottom right of the screen.

• Up to 6 simultaneous readings can be viewed on a time based axis by graph and digital
meter.

• VIEW function: data changes at 0.2 second intervals can be monitored.

• Logging can be conducted for up to 600 seconds (10 minutes).

• Selected item(s) can be shown in the analog meter.

• Select from two modes: either 3 analog meter displays, or 1 analog meter with 6 digital indicators below it.

• Analog meters accurately show continuously changing data.

• Selected item(s) can be shown in the digital meter.

• Select from 6 digital meters or 3 digital bar graphs to appear on the screen.

• Digital meter shows accurate data for each item.

* For vehicles equipped with HKS F Con S/SZ/iS/V-Pro Engine Management Systems

• The input value and/or the output value of each F-CON sensor can be monitored.

• F-CON S/SZ/iS data can be monitored and edited when connected to the CAMP2
(depending on the F-CON model and/or installed sensors).
Map editing can be done only for unlocked maps; please consult with your Certified HKS Pro Dealer. (Data for F-CON V-Pro cannot be edited.)

• Settings can be adjusted based on engine specification, such as exhaust type or intake type.

 

Bump, any vendors looking at this or had HKS reps calling about it yet? Adding boost control would be WAY nice and no need to mount that navigator on the dash

 

I am looking for a guage/monitoring solution that is as stealth and unobtrusive as possible. I have the factory navi. It looks like I could use this monitor in conjunction with the Camp2. I'm really only looking for A/F and boost, in addition to what the CAMP2 offers. Is this possible? Also, if I use the factory navi screen with the HKS CAMP2, will I lose the function of navigation control, or could I switch between navigation and the CAMP2 monitoring?

 

I don't even think you can use the factory LCD. Even if it were possible, I would have a dedicated screen - outputting anything other than the factory navi onto the factory lcd ends up looking atrocious

As for monitering AFR, the only way to do it with the Camp2 ends up being very expensive - all in between all the sensors, etc needed to moniter it, it's in the $2k neighborhood, screen not included