Can you compare this product with an existing product? Will this be like installing a chip, or like a Hondata or Motec where you can tune it yourself?

I'd be interested but only if this unit is fully programmable. Will it have data logging capabilities? I'm guessing that for the asking price it will have some of the features you expect with some of the more expensive EMS's.

I will be going turbo as soon as kits are available. Most of the kits come with some kind of ecu like the e-manage, but I'd honestly prefer to piecemeal my kit if I knew I could get all the parts like a programmable/tunable EMS that costs less than the Motec.

 

The perfect power unit does allow datalogging and is user tunable. We will be researching the feasibility of producing a plug in harness as well. You can find out more info on the unit at these sites:

http://www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp
http://www.idaautomotive.com/products.asp

We are trying not to get too far ahead of ourselves here and hope to be able to provide some dyno numbers next week.
thanks again for your interest,

 

I would be interested, but only if the chip could adapt ON ITS OWN to any mods added.

 

Like Mike(mrc) said, it is 100% user tunable, in real time obviously. The only thing is you would need a wide band o2 to tune it effectively. Thats why we are creating the maps for certain mods and will probably also sell it in a package with headers, exhaust, and new intake plenum. We can also create maps for basic mods like cai and cat back exhaust, and obviously bone stock cars two. Each unit is capable of being programmed with 2 maps that are switchable, so the capabilities are endless. Please read more about it at the above mentioned sites. The car will most likely go to the shop the week of the 21st and will go through extensive tuning. It will take 2-3 days of dyno tuning to create the perfect setup. And as mentioned before, if anyone in the NJ area is interested in having one tuned to your specific car, please let me know.

 

I'm interested as well. I being of the lazy sorts would love for the unit to learn on its own, but if mapping based on mods is the best way to go then the pricing structure should allow for reasonable upgrades to the unit.

Just to put some perspective on the ECU upgrade/cost expectations...

Z32 (natural aspired) 22hp increase $520 approx.
Z32 (twin-turbo) 60hp increase $575 approx.

Man, I sometimes miss my Z32TT, this is one of those times!

 

I would pay $1000 if it worked the same way as my Audi TT's ECU

website

APR’s EMCS is a truly modular system that allows for future enhancements and features to be added as they are developed without the need for additional hardware. EMCS makes the following advanced features possible:

FlipSwitch
Enables you to swap between two or more engine programs on-the-fly using the cruise control stalk. All cars have stock and standard chipped program versions available. Valet, race-gas, and other specialty programs are available for some models.

Fault Code Erase/Throttle Body Alignment (FCE/TBA)
Fault Code Erase allows you to erase and reset engine related trouble codes without having to use a specialty tool. Throttle Body Alignment allows you to manually perform throttle-body adaptation.

Security Lockout
Prevents unauthorized personnel from accessing EMCS functions. The user may select any 1 to 4 digit security code. The security code is entered using the cruise control buttons.


User Reprogramming and Reconfiguration
G ives the user the ability to reprogram their ECU with the latest software updates and to reconfigure their ECU for different preferences or to function with different hardware. This function requires the optional programming adaptor.

All for around $1000

 

Yes I'd be interested as well, at up to $1000. But for that much I would expect it to be the most flexible ECU available. :-)

If it was just basic tuning, closer to $500 would be more desirable.

 

um...good luck

you'll never get maximum potential from your mods unless you get your ecu tuned specifically for them.

 

Those Audi... ECU capabilities are nice....

I like the lock out with security codes too. But probably not possible with our comp... (is it)?

BTW - I think you guys might be a step up on NISMO so far... they are devolping a piggyback in japan, but they say it will not work for the american version... yet!

 

I think the APR features are more important in the Audi/VW turbo engines, especially b/c my wifes jetta was very hard to drive with teh GIAC chip (later learned this mostley do to faulty MAF and DV valve, so most of it is corrected), but the immediate torque (very touchy) in the 1.8Ts can be difficult and wind up quick and I don't know if my wife really "needs" that.

I don't really need to adjust teh Z computer, my foot will do that

 

I beg to differ. Currently I own a 2000 Eclipse. They have created what is called a "Black Box" piggyback. This ECU addon sees any added mods by seeing differences in the sensor input. It adjusts all ECU functions to work with the mod.

http://www.eclipseforums.org/forum/s...ight=black+box

 

As I am receiving many many PM's about the perfect power ecu and the plenum, headers, etc, please email me if you have any questions or would like to be put on a list. As we all know, checking PM's on this site can be very slow. I will respond to all emails and try to answer any questions. I should have pics and pricing for many of the parts after this weekend. And I will have more info on the ecu in about 2 weeks. I encourage you to check out the websites I posted previously to learn about the many capabilities of the perfect power smt6. It is a remarkable unit.
Thanks,
Jason

email me @ Jays350z@aol.com

visit www.perfectpower.com/products/smt6.asp
or www.idaautomotive.com to learn about the amazing shop that will be working on tuning my car and creating all of the maps.

 

I may be repeating what other people already said, but since you are gauging interest I will say it anyway.....

I would be interested in a piggy back unit. Being able to pop a mod out for warranty service is an attractive idea to me.

However, the $1000 price tag seems to high (to me) . I say that based on two things. The first is price per HP gained compared to other mods. The second is my experience with other cars and ECUs. Piggy back and/or replacement ECUs for Camaros/Mustangs (my previous experiences) run under $500 routinely.

If it is much over $500 I would have to wait for some pretty awesome reviews and dyno runs to consider it.

Just my $0.02 since you asked.

 

The original post said that it would be under 1k. Most comparable setups with the Pre-Programmed maps( 2 u can have) sell for around $700. I can sell the basic box for under $400 but then you have to tune and create your own maps, And the development kit sells for over $1500. You can see dyno results from different cars on IDA's website listed above, but for example, they got 21hp out of the new mini and over 40hp I believe out of a viper. If this car runs as rich as everyone says, then their are great gains to be made. We are also looking into the possibilities of controling the Variable valve timing with this unit. And if you ever want to go turbo or supercharger, you will not have to replace it, you can just create the maps to your mods, or control boost, or your wastegates, or nitrous, or additional injectors, etc.... It is an amazing unit! We are very anxious and excited to get the car to the shop asap. Once again, thanks for all the interest!!!

 

i skimmed through the thread and it appears the "black box" piggyback you speak of still uses preprogrammed maps that come on when it sees differences in sensor input. It seems like a very good unit from what i've read, and am very interested. However, from what ive read it doesnt "adapt on its own," as you put it, to mods (i dont know how any piggyback could effectively/efficiently). It uses maps preprogramed, just as this and other piggybacks will.

From what has been said so far, i'm very excited about unit and would appreciate any additional details.

 

http://www.dastek.co.za/

This is a company you should look at, and with the exchange rate in currancies ? you pay nothing.