03-05 Bolt On Base Line dyno numbers
The new kinetix velocity plenum just came out less then 5 months ago. (I have it) Berk's matalic cats have been redesigned (i have those) and i believe that these two parts alone would dyno almost 20 more hp then a plenum spacer and test pipes.
(yes i know with the cats you don't gain as much peak power as test pipes but the added tourqe with the HFC's would make up for this on a track)
(yes i know with the cats you don't gain as much peak power as test pipes but the added tourqe with the HFC's would make up for this on a track)
You seem to think you have all the answers already so what is the purpose of the thread? I wish you good luck - seriously
there might not be a single best intake or exhaust but if you have the right parts combined it should create noticibly bigger numbers then anything else and with all the people who have added simple bolt ons to their car there should be a clear answer to which set up works the best together but no one will take the time to actually find out.
so instead of trying to flame this why don't you just actually post some numbers so we can compare stats instead of idea's?
that is why i was asking for other people's baseline numbers (considering the 350z ecu can adjust AFR to adapt to after market parts)(yes i know there are many factors like altitude humidity timing and many more but it really shouldnt be that hard to findout what works the best) it should be clear which set of parts works the best together in relation to eachother.
there might not be a single best intake or exhaust but if you have the right parts combined it should create noticibly bigger numbers then anything else and with all the people who have added simple bolt ons to their car there should be a clear answer to which set up works the best together but no one will take the time to actually find out.
so instead of trying to flame this why don't you just actually post some numbers so we can compare stats instead of idea's?
there might not be a single best intake or exhaust but if you have the right parts combined it should create noticibly bigger numbers then anything else and with all the people who have added simple bolt ons to their car there should be a clear answer to which set up works the best together but no one will take the time to actually find out.
so instead of trying to flame this why don't you just actually post some numbers so we can compare stats instead of idea's?
Hopefully you read this carefully. It is not an attack, it is reality.
Nothing is revolutionary about what your bolt ons are relative to anyone else's As such, you're going to end up right in the same range as everyone else has since ~2003. There are years worth of posts that support that. I know you might want to think that your intake manifold is something special or your test pipes (of cats, whatever the case may be) are something new, but the reality is, they are not. You will end up with the same baseline mods pre-tune as everyone else does. Your post-tune #'s will also end up similarly to everyone else's.
With the typical bolt ons (intake, exhaust, test pipes or hfc, a plenum spacer (with or without the earlier style lower collector if you have a revup), minus a tune, you'll be in the 250 whp range, assuming you're using a conventional Dynojet. With a tune, in the 260-270 whp range. These numbers have some variance in them depending on the type of dyno, and some other factors. There are a wide combination of parts that will get you there. None of them are anything new or revolutionary, because they don't need to be.
As far as your supposition that the ecu adjusts fuel itself for certain mods, it has a very narrow range with which to do so. Tuning is essential towards maximizing the gains of any single, or group, of bolt on mods
If you click the link in my signature, you will see I have posted my own #'s over the years. Many others have posted their #'s as well, it just takes a little searching on your end.
What you think is outdated, actually is not. It is just as relevant now as it was whenever the dyno was done. You'll find that they all fall within a fairly narrow range with similar mods.
I would strongly encourage you to read, read, read, as much as you can, before spending (wasting) anymore money. From there, if you want to know where your car baselines, take it to your local dyno and see, post up the results, and then you can let us know if there is something special about your car vs all those who have been there before you.
Nothing is revolutionary about what your bolt ons are relative to anyone else's As such, you're going to end up right in the same range as everyone else has since ~2003. There are years worth of posts that support that. I know you might want to think that your intake manifold is something special or your test pipes (of cats, whatever the case may be) are something new, but the reality is, they are not. You will end up with the same baseline mods pre-tune as everyone else does. Your post-tune #'s will also end up similarly to everyone else's.
With the typical bolt ons (intake, exhaust, test pipes or hfc, a plenum spacer (with or without the earlier style lower collector if you have a revup), minus a tune, you'll be in the 250 whp range, assuming you're using a conventional Dynojet. With a tune, in the 260-270 whp range. These numbers have some variance in them depending on the type of dyno, and some other factors. There are a wide combination of parts that will get you there. None of them are anything new or revolutionary, because they don't need to be.
As far as your supposition that the ecu adjusts fuel itself for certain mods, it has a very narrow range with which to do so. Tuning is essential towards maximizing the gains of any single, or group, of bolt on mods
If you click the link in my signature, you will see I have posted my own #'s over the years. Many others have posted their #'s as well, it just takes a little searching on your end.
What you think is outdated, actually is not. It is just as relevant now as it was whenever the dyno was done. You'll find that they all fall within a fairly narrow range with similar mods.
I would strongly encourage you to read, read, read, as much as you can, before spending (wasting) anymore money. From there, if you want to know where your car baselines, take it to your local dyno and see, post up the results, and then you can let us know if there is something special about your car vs all those who have been there before you.
Last edited by Z1 Performance; Jan 1, 2010 at 03:11 PM.
And seriously, is it really that much harder to type with some sort of structure? If for nothing else, new sentences/paragraph help you organize your thoughts, and it makes it much easier for those trying their best to answer you, to try to understand what the question is in the first place
230-240 wheel horsepower is baseline 5 speed auto numbers for a completely stock vq35de,if it was dyno correctly your deffinatley have a issue with your motor, I would recommend deffinatley checking your vvt solenoids, checking your gallery gaskets and manifold gaskets and do a tune up something isn’t right
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5th or 6th necrobump in a week. I have no issue with it but it's weird how cyclical this is. Always a consecutive week or two in a year this happens then bam, silence again. Haha. Then there's that other thread that needs to go necro and never to be resurrected again.
i have a vq35de nonrevup 2006 with 5speed AT and it’s almost FBO rn i had a stock baseline of 227whp and ended it off with 243whp it makes no sense with ported manifolds 75mm throttle body, test pipes, y pipe, isr shortys, intake , plenum spacer and more
I think your 5 speed AT is holding you back.
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