Getting solid information out of you is like pulling teeth. Is that my fault? Sincere thanks for the (most recent) links to the PDFs. I have not been able to readily locate such data on the AccessPort.

I still see no reference to REAL TIME TUNING. Not data logging. Not reflashing. You know the fuel and ignition tables are in EEPROM in the stock ECU, right? Real time tuning is no trivial feature to implement.

I will call Cobb today and ask to put this to rest. (I would take your word for it, but I don't think we're on the same wavelength here - no offense).

If Cobb can provide real time tuning (on a laptop while on the dyno), then there really is not much difference between the products. If you have to wait 57 seconds to update the stock ECU after every little change, that is NOT what i would consider real time!

 

I just said twice it does that. What is the problem?

 

I missed your post - sorry. Will check out the "race beta" - will look into cost and availability. Thanks. Had no idea they had come out with a laptop version. Kwame failed to mention it except for that last PDF he sent and even that doesn't reference real time tuning at all.

Example: you can hit a button and bump fuel at idle while the car is idling and watch the AFR change, second by second? Then it is the same as Osiris. The EEPROM must be mapped into RAM and is freely adjustable. I stand corrected.

 

lol, you are a stubborn one. Please do yourself a favor and take the time to read the tuning guide I linked in my 2nd to last post. You will see that they clearly indicate live tuning on pg.9.

I'm not making this up.

 

Arent noob always being yelled at for wanting stuff to be spoon fed lol?

 

Lol, dude you're an Osiris fanboi for life. Nothing wrong with that you're very pleased with your purchase/decision and that is what is most important.

Edit: Just don't be jealous when one day Ron, John and I are playing Gran Turismo 10 over wifi through our hand held AccessPORT units. ... Cobb are you listening? I keed.

 

Yeah the fact that Cobb has nothing documented doesn't help... but it is a new product, correct? Still in beta? Kwame forgive me for not outright believing a post on an Internet forum. I'm not an Osiris fanboy as much as a RTT fanboy! If Cobb came out with something to reprogram the 5AT, I'd get it in a second. That's the only thing I miss not being able to adjust. (Or perhaps the ability to set readiness status for OBD!)

PS> I saw that page of shortcuts but I felt they were referencing live data logging (ala Cipher), not real time tuning. The documentation is sparse to say the least. Not even a screenshot or description of changing a cell and no mention of going between RTT mode and reflash uploading, etc...

 

Race beta is like november i think? so ya its pretty new.

 

July '09 it was released...

http://www.cobbforums.com/forums/sho...-available-NOW

 

Really entertaining guys, the only positive in this thread is RC learned something. The OP had his answer in the first few post.

I will say I agree Cobb really stinks with marketing and informing. I was saying something in another thread about global timing adjustsments, and Cobb posted what do you mean global tuning. I did not really know but I could swear I read it, low and behold found were I read it, in their damn user guide for the ap-nis-001 AP for the 350z/G35. These guys are killing me,

Product and price looks solid though reguardless!

 

Editorial On: I think it highlights the unfortunate trend for people to start and/or continue arguments (arguments, not discussions) and claim to know something when they really are ill-equipped to participate in the first place. All too often people post rather than read. If those same people spent half the time reading (to educate themselves) prior to forming/voicing an opinion, others who inhabit the board would have to wade through alot less drek in order to get solid, meaningful, factual information. I am not singling anyone out, so please do not take it that way. Alot of people on forums in general are guilty of this...and it sucks. It contributes towards the spreading of misinformation, which hurts everyone who ever does a search now or in the future.

Editorial off

The info is posted on Cobb's site and has been for quite some time - it's not like Kwame took it from our secret stash of info here at the shop

 

You need to get off your soap box because the condescending attitude is not helpful either. Instead of whining about what other people post in the forum (something over which you have no control), you should consider just sticking to the facts in your posts (and refrain from the editorials).

But... since you decided to bring this up - in my opinion, Kwame's series of posts instigated the argument and the posting of misinformation. A simple, "it's true that the Cobb handheld unit was limited to reflash capability, but they released a laptop based real time tuning solution July 2009" would have sufficed. My thanks to Jiggy-O for stating so simply, without the attitude to go with it.

 

Pot, meet kettle...

Arguing with you is an exercise in mental masturbation. Admit you were wrong and move on, it's really as simple as that. You really would be doing everyone a favor as you're merit or lack thereof to discuss the topic at hand is here for all to see shall they see fit.

 

I already admitted I was wrong. Thanks for all of the insightful information you have so graciously provided. And I apologize profusely for upsetting the sensibilities of the Z1 editorial staff. Have a good evening gentlemen.

 

cool, so everyone can drop it now. Great information has been shared here, now just stop with the attitudes and leave it at that.

 

I think all that snow has got em frustrated.

 

No frustration on our part beyond what I mentioned. It's a balmy 40 degrees out today (not quite FL weather, but we're behind the curve!). Almost Z weather again!

 

Im going with the Uprev Tuner package.

Spoke with Vince at R/t Tuning who has tuned with both products and convinced me Uprev has more potential, which pretty much backs up most of the evidence around here.

I'll post my results in the coming weeks, post tune.

 

Glad to see you made your decision.

I still would like to know what gives Uprev MORE potential? Did Vince give his reason for this statement? If he just perfers to work with Uprev interface software I can understand, but that does not give it more potential, right?

 

Hey everyone,

I read some complaints here that information from COBB Tuning about the AccessPORT is hard to find. I've put a lot of effort into adding information to the website, but it sounds like people are still unable to find what they are looking for.

Here are some examples:

- Product description of the AccessPORT (linked from front page of cobbtuning.com via the AccessPORT button): http://cobbtuning.com/accessport

- Specific AccessPORT features and capabilities on every AccessPORT product page by application in the menu bar right above the dyno graph.
Example: 2004 Nissan 350Z AccessPORT
Menu Buttons: (Features/Monitors/Maps/Firmware/Tuning/Manuals)

- Specific AccessTUNER Race software table access, features and capabilities on every AccessTUNER Race product page by application in the menu bar in the middle of the page.
Example: 2004 Nissan 350Z AccessTUNER Race
Menu Buttons: (Download/Monitors/Tables/Screenshots/Tuning Guide/Forums)

Our intent is to be as transparent as possible, so visitors can learn as much as they want about the AccessPORT and AccessTUNER and help them choose which engine management solution best meets their needs.

I'd love to hear your feedback on what you think could make this information easier to find on our website. Is there more information that would be beneficial?

In addition to website product info, we publish frequent blog posts that are carried over to the forums here to share how things are progressing with the AccessPORT for Nissan and Infiniti. We don't want to be seen as spamming. What suggestions would you have for ways to better educate members of this forum regarding AccessPORT and AccessTUNER?

Thanks!

Gary