Cobb,

Could you touch on why a tuner would state Uprev has more potential over the Accessport with Racetuner?

Is there any truth to this?

Thanks

 

AP does not support real time tuning for Nissan's or Infinities. This is straight from Travis at COBB.

Check it

https://my350z.com/forum/tuning/4647...challenge.html

Maybe if we push it they will develop the capability.

IMO the only thing holding COBB back. No one wants to reflash 462 times when they go to the dyno, too much risk for the ECM and a PITA.

 

Well if this is 100% true, then there is the HUGE difference. Sometimes it is like pulling teeth to get the info needed around here.

I could see why Cobb would be reluctant to state this. Sold on Uprev now, and I came so close to ordering the AP.

 

While realtime tuning is a nice convenience, it does not detract from the overall capabilities of the AccessPORT or the AccessTUNER software. While realtime tuning can make tuning go a bit quicker, the convenience of not having to lug a laptop everywhere you go to change maps, read codes or view live data and datalog cannot be overstated.

Travis
COBB Tuning

 

^ Wait, weren't you the one who thought people were using the hand-held AccessPORT unit to tune their cars and not laptops?

 

Travis, I understand your position on RTT not being necessary to achieve the end adjustments. Reguardless, this is a piece to the puzzle that has taken way to long to surface. This again reinforces the lack of useful information from Cobb on the AP for our 350Z. There are way too many issues that can come up when you need to reflash at every minor adjustment. Sh*t I remember my AP for my Subi would hang during reflash but some how I got lucky.

Whether RTT is necessary to tune is not the issue here, RTT however is a great step forward for the 350z. It seems Uprev is superior for tuning our 350z.
I am let down somewhat because you (Cobb) have had plenty of opportunity to explain that your racetunner software does not support RTT in these threads. I have asked these types of questions myself, and received answers stating no difference between Uprev and AP with Racetunner. We know now that this is totally untrue. I hate to tighten the screws, but I came so close to purchasing the AP due to the lack of accurate info. Now I have to reconsider, see I was planning on street tuning mostly, and needing to reflash everytime is going to kill me.

Not to be rude Travis, but come off the whole lugging a laptop around with you to tune thing. That is not an inconvienence at all. If an adult can fit in my passenger seat without inconvienencing me, I am certain my laptop will not either. Once the tune is set, your laptop is no longer riding shotgun, unless you want it to.

 

^ You got me. I'm such a Cobb fanboy...

I'm done responding to you. More of the same.

Edit: I will gladly admit here and to anyone that I was incorrect in stating that the AccessPORT has Real time tuning in the same manner that Osirus does. My initial statement was not based off anything told to me directly by Cobb. My statements were based off of the information that I found on their website and what I know about the AccessPORTs that we sell for other platforms. My apologies to those who I may have misled with my previous statements.

 

similar yes, yet so far away from being the same...after reading yes uprev is superior to cobb at the given moment I dont see how that can be argued

 

I believe the validity of that statement is still dependent on who is behind the keys of the CPU tuning the respective unit.

It's just as similar of an argument as comparing an F-Con to a Haltech to a Pro-Efi, etc.

 

rich dont worry about what z1 has to say about cobb.. simply go to rt tuning and have vince tune ur car with osiris.. ull be as happy as u can be. rt tuning to me is the best place to go for a tune on the east coast.. take the drive its well worth it.

 

Interesting thread.
I have followed the info on Uprev and Cobb over many forums for some time now as I am trying to decide on which one myself.
Here is one thought.
To me this comes down to Price point.
if you are willing to pay the extra money for the Osiris, unit to get the RRT feature, then you have that option.
But some of us who are on a tight budget may wish to save a bit of money and get the Cobb unit which lacks that feature but gets the job done.
Dont we all make this decision every day on the stuff we buy for our Z's?
Anyway, I am leaning toward to Cobb unit at the moment BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a very important point that I have not seen in this thread but I've seen all over other forums is this,
The Cobb unit seems to generate slightly better results on the 07/08 models and the Uprev unit seems to do better with the 03-06 models.
This is of course based upon lightly moded, non FA cars.
Your thoughts all?
Mike

 

Went w/ Uprev, but I have an interesting story about tuner choice which I will document in its own thread.





As for Vince at R/T tuning...:thumb up:

 

why would u even want Cobb? Hmm seems Z1 has more AP to sell then osiris lmao or u make more $ with cobb. Seems on the forum now days u cant really take what a vendor says bc there just trying to push what they make more money on

 

Good point, you often wonder who's advice you can take and if they have a ulterior motive. Take it all with a grain of salt.

 

Because they have been successful on many other platforms and their unit is priced very well. Not sure whats up with the conspiracy theory. They have already stated the offer both. Its not even the company of Z1 that uses Cobb its Kwame. Adam uses haltech. Why are you reading into it so much lol.

 

the profit margin for us is more with the Osirus than with the Cobb (we sell both)

the fact of the matter is they both are excellent units, and a user and/or tuner can yield impressive results with either product

 

Any response from Cobb? Bringing back the slight dead. Re-read whole thread again and I'm still confused lol. I take back my conspiracy theory. I just wanna learn more info well TRUE info.

 

Why would u want Cobb's response lol. It's their product. Heres some things I can tell you that I like:

Cost- For 500 bucks your getting a lot of power.
AP unit- I like that your getting an actual physical object. Not HAVING to lug the laptop to datalog is nice to me.
UI- Once you read the manual and look through all the tables the thing is super simple to use. Obviously you should have some experience with cars and/or tuning but Id love to see a more user friendly UI.

I wish more people on here had it because I love nerdy discussions but with the price so low id imagine it'll happen soon enough.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head ask if anything comes to mind and I'll try to answer.

 

 

I bought a cobb used. That helped the performance per dollar ratio. Now if I could just get the time to install and play with it.