ZDAYZ 2011 (May 19-22, 2011)
What part of that doesn't sound safe? Not trying to be a heavy here, but we potentially totalled one car, and sadly that is a good year. These are dangerous roads, and one should focus all their attention on what is around them. If they are getting heavy pressure in the rear view and pushing themselves past thier limits, there is very little room for error up there. Almost no guard rails, to cliff faces one up and one down on either side.
Maybe I'm just a little more laid back about it, but if someone wants to be the keep of the speed in front of me, I figure it is for good reason, almost everytime it happens, it has saved me from a ticket. I generally end up buying them a beer.
Maybe I'm just a little more laid back about it, but if someone wants to be the keep of the speed in front of me, I figure it is for good reason, almost everytime it happens, it has saved me from a ticket. I generally end up buying them a beer.
What part of that doesn't sound safe? Not trying to be a heavy here, but we potentially totalled one car, and sadly that is a good year. These are dangerous roads, and one should focus all their attention on what is around them. If they are getting heavy pressure in the rear view and pushing themselves past thier limits, there is very little room for error up there. Almost no guard rails, to cliff faces one up and one down on either side.
Maybe I'm just a little more laid back about it, but if someone wants to be the keep of the speed in front of me, I figure it is for good reason, almost everytime it happens, it has saved me from a ticket. I generally end up buying them a beer.
Maybe I'm just a little more laid back about it, but if someone wants to be the keep of the speed in front of me, I figure it is for good reason, almost everytime it happens, it has saved me from a ticket. I generally end up buying them a beer.
As a rule I won't push a car for a couple miles just to give them a chance to clear off. If they don't get the hint I start creeping. Especially when I know I am in a much less capable car. In my Z i have a hard time judging the same thing. My car was built almost specifically for those roads.
5.4L w/16psi boost
5 link rear end
dual coilover fronts
BBk
315s/335s
and MOAR cowbell than you can shake a stick at, but there is no reason to push someone to failure
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From: Spartanburg(SparkleCity), SC
Here is where the magic happened - they put me in the middle of their group on the way back down the two guys in front of me were laying it down to their knees and it was an awesome ride. Every single Harley pulled out of their way when they saw the sport bikes coming, and we had a clean run all the way down the dragon.
I figured out a new trick this trip. The Harley drivers always seem to have an "eff you sportscar" attitude and force me to pass them... but I had a good run behind some sport bikes on the way up the dragon where I was keeping up with them, but not pushing them or tailgating. We all pulled over at the bridge and they came over to talk and check out the car...
Here is where the magic happened - they put me in the middle of their group on the way back down the two guys in front of me were laying it down to their knees and it was an awesome ride. Every single Harley pulled out of their way when they saw the sport bikes coming, and we had a clean run all the way down the dragon.
Here is where the magic happened - they put me in the middle of their group on the way back down the two guys in front of me were laying it down to their knees and it was an awesome ride. Every single Harley pulled out of their way when they saw the sport bikes coming, and we had a clean run all the way down the dragon.
One easter weekend when there was noone around we took a few drifting turns where you could see all the way through, Killboy took this shot
http://www.zdayz.com/gallery/2005/
go towards the bottom of the page, you will see that but right above it is Buddy who let it get away from him and look where he ended up
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From: Spartanburg(SparkleCity), SC
Joined: May 2009
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From: Spartanburg(SparkleCity), SC
What part of that doesn't sound safe? Not trying to be a heavy here, but we potentially totalled one car, and sadly that is a good year. These are dangerous roads, and one should focus all their attention on what is around them. If they are getting heavy pressure in the rear view and pushing themselves past thier limits, there is very little room for error up there. Almost no guard rails, to cliff faces one up and one down on either side.
I don't think that you want someone else's death on your hands because you wanted to take a corner 10-20mph faster purely so that you could "go faster". This isn't a personal attack, because I probably had your same view when I was younger, didn't have a little girl to make it home to, and hadn't personally seen the results of others attempting to outdrive their capabilities.
People who are "trying" to go fast are a different kind of problem than people who are just trying to "screw everyone else".
One warrants empathy, the other warrants 50 cent at ~130db. Bikers get tired of that pretty quickly.
One warrants empathy, the other warrants 50 cent at ~130db. Bikers get tired of that pretty quickly.
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From: Spartanburg(SparkleCity), SC
http://www.zdayz.com/gallery/2005/
go towards the bottom of the page, you will see that but right above it is Buddy who let it get away from him and look where he ended up
go towards the bottom of the page, you will see that but right above it is Buddy who let it get away from him and look where he ended up
The black Z, ummph. It hurts me to see the pic with the tail end up in the air, but the next one with the Z sitting in the woods is pretty funny - my first thought was that they are ok and probably have a hurt ego more than anything else.
I love the two shots where you're lighting them up and getting some good slidewayz action.
The black Z, ummph. It hurts me to see the pic with the tail end up in the air, but the next one with the Z sitting in the woods is pretty funny - my first thought was that they are ok and probably have a hurt ego more than anything else.
The black Z, ummph. It hurts me to see the pic with the tail end up in the air, but the next one with the Z sitting in the woods is pretty funny - my first thought was that they are ok and probably have a hurt ego more than anything else.


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I'm going to make it a year-long project to somehow get my wife to go with me next year. I might not rent a cabin at FVR, but I definitely want to bring her along to see how much fun this can be.
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From: Spartanburg(SparkleCity), SC
I really enjoyed 276 through Dupont, Brevard, Caesar's Head, and Pisgah on the way home. It would have been great behind the wheel of the Z instead of the Frontier (BTW, Bryan - I loved driving your Titan in comparison). Maybe by next year I can get a caravan together to drive up that direction.
Side note if anyone in upstate SC or western NC is still itching for some more mountain driving - I think that a buddy and I are going to make a trip back up in 2 or 3 weekends and take 276 up and back. He's never driven the Dragon and has a turbo PT cruiser. I'm going to either let him lead or make sure that I'm way ahead of him, because I don't want him trying to keep up with me on those roads in a vehicle that is much higher than my dropped Z and has less traction than my 255/285 rubber. Anyone that wants to join us for a spirited, yet safe drive, let me know.
Side note if anyone in upstate SC or western NC is still itching for some more mountain driving - I think that a buddy and I are going to make a trip back up in 2 or 3 weekends and take 276 up and back. He's never driven the Dragon and has a turbo PT cruiser. I'm going to either let him lead or make sure that I'm way ahead of him, because I don't want him trying to keep up with me on those roads in a vehicle that is much higher than my dropped Z and has less traction than my 255/285 rubber. Anyone that wants to join us for a spirited, yet safe drive, let me know.
Last edited by SparkleCityHop; May 23, 2011 at 07:51 PM.
Honestly, I enjoyed 129 south of the Dragon, and 28 a lot more than the Dragon itself.
Fri night on the way back to the hotel in Robbinsville, I can't remember which route we took, but the road was empty and we were freaking tearing it UP! So much fun
Fri night on the way back to the hotel in Robbinsville, I can't remember which route we took, but the road was empty and we were freaking tearing it UP! So much fun




