Video - fastest G on stock internals
Originally Posted by Wicked4u2c
Elighten me, OH MIGHTY ONE. Prove to me that "Tuning" isn't about acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine. So please answer my question HOT SHOT, what is tuning? Since you seem to know the answers including Dr. Charles showing me my *** instead of my head. You definitely talk from experience, is there something your not telling us Brigaymax? 
Dude, tuning will only take you so far. Get over your whole "reliability" It doesn't exist. Your just fooling yourself. Any tuner will tell you that. So your telling me a turbocharged 350z is as reliable as a "stock" Z? If you answered yes, than everyone should modify their cars because obviously the reliability wont be affected. Why do you think some dealerships VOID warranty's with just simple bolt-ons? Geez, let me guess because its as reliable as stock. Uhhhh... NO!! Nothing will be as reliable as stock, specially FI. Sure some motors are very strong but only time will tell. And im willing to bet money that Infinity wont last 50K miles Turbocharged. Statistics speak louder than words my friend, show me proof.
Oh and it's Especially not specially.
You just don't know how to read, go back to high school. At the power this guy is making, yes the sligthest error will jepordize his engine. The more power he makes the more his internals are taking a toll do you not agree? VQ motors are reliable, but they aren't ubreakable. Lets do a number count how many succesfull "stock" motors are here VS blown engines. Than you will see that your VQ isn't that powerful. Heck, Greddy turbochargers blew many engines with their default map. And some motors are still runing and HARD! Why is that? How can Greddy sell turbo kits with the same map from the E-manage and blow some motors which were untouched from tuning and yet others had no problem and their motors are super strong and were also untouched and used the factory default map from GReddy? Every MOTOR IS DIFFERENT, some motors are blessed and are super strong, than you have those motors that are weak. Hence a car that is a LEMON, not 2 cars a like so stop hyping that ALL VQ engines are unbreakable.
BTW - telling my I can't read and should go back to HS is really lame. You can sit here with your lame insults all day..but in the end I really don't care what you have to say about me, we're talking about motors, not each other's literacy.
Uh what's your point? Because You personally have seen GREAT results it must be bullet proof engine? Ive seen good and bad, check out the Maxima boards and see how many BLOWN engines they have. Stop justifying because my mom and dad have a turbo 350z and my uncle and grandma and Ive seen miracles.. BLAGH BLAGH BLAGH do a search my friend that should shut you up. C-mon dude I owned a 350z once, I love the damn Car if anything I should be praising it, but I just hate it when people make it sound like its untouchable, get off your cloud 9 dude.
I used to have a Nitrous'd maxima and have been a member of maxima.org for 5 years. The VQ30/VQ35 in the maxima have show amazing strength for a stock N/A motor with boost added. Are you trying to say that lots of VQ maximas blow up?? News Flash..they don't.
350Z - - untouchable...hardly. I didn't say that or anything close to that. Do you have to make up stuff to bolster a point that you don't even have?
This one is easy to explain, its the stupid shop that built the car. You get what you pay for my friend. Take your Z to get built by a reputable shop like SP Engineering and you wont see that happening. Look at SkidaZZle's car, did his engine pop? Why because it was built by JOTECH. Company's like these are reputable and the chances of a blown engine are very slim. Yes, they charge CRAZY prices, but that's because they can.
Brigaymax, on a serious note and im not doing this to dis you but stop with your gay stuff because during this whole time you keep insinuating gay comments. Look at what you write, now your questioning the size of my ****. Seriousyl, why do you care? ON second thought keep that comment to yourself. Better take my picture down, dont want someone masterbating to it. On another note, just word of advice never get into politics son, cause you suck at arguing.
Since you didn't seem to get it the first TEN times, here's my point one more time for you.
Give props to the quick G35 instead of polluting this thread with your OPINION on how long his motor will last. You have absolutely no idea how long his, or any other 350Z's motor will last. So stop making predictions like you've got some crystal ball.
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Last edited by barthelb; Aug 9, 2005 at 05:13 PM.
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
Yea..timing is an afterthought...lets all run 40 degrees of advance and just worry about the mysterious "perfect" AFR.
"Elighten me, OH MIGHTY ONE. Prove to me that "Tuning" isn't about acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine."
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
Now you're putting words into my mouth. Please quote me saying that an FI Z is as reliable as a stock Z. Bet your money about the INFINITI (god your spelling sucks)..all you have is speculation. There's a lot more guys on here who's motors stay together than don't. Statistics?? You haven't show me ANY statistics, so what proof do I owe you? In fact...I've never heard of ANY Stillen S/Ced, Vortech S/Ced, HKS S/Ced, Power Enterprise Twin Turbocharged, and only ONE APS Twin Turbocharged 350Z (overheating issue) blowing their motors. The only cars that did or do where to original ATI supercharged Z's since they had no timing retard along with the Greddy TT cars since they also have NO TIMING retard.
Oh and it's Especially not specially.
Oh and it's Especially not specially.
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
There you go, putting words into my mouth again. I NEVER SAID THAT VQ MOTORS WERE UNBREAKABLE. As I said before...guys that have stock greddy kits are taking a risk by running boost and not retarding timing. The guys that buy the greddy ignition harness have very few issues.
at least they understand basic english.
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
BTW - telling my I can't read and should go back to HS is really lame. You can sit here with your lame insults all day..but in the end I really don't care what you have to say about me, we're talking about motors, not each other's literacy.
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
AGAIN..WHEN THE FU*K did I say the motor was "bulletproof"??????
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
350Z - - untouchable...hardly. I didn't say that or anything close to that. Do you have to make up stuff to bolster a point that you don't even have?
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
Since you didn't seem to get it the first TEN times, here's my point one more time for you.
Give props to the quick G35 instead of polluting this thread with your OPINION on how long his motor will last. You have absolutely no idea how long his, or any other 350Z's motor will last. So stop making predictions like you've got some crystal ball.
Give props to the quick G35 instead of polluting this thread with your OPINION on how long his motor will last. You have absolutely no idea how long his, or any other 350Z's motor will last. So stop making predictions like you've got some crystal ball.
Originally Posted by BriGayMax
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Dude, you're a clown shoe. You obviously haven't tuned a car yourself as per your reliance on Dr. Charles, and your belief that A/F ratio is the only consideration that goes into tuning. On what are you basing your assumption that the car won't last for a good while on stock internals? Your vast automotive knowledge (knowledge that lacks the ability to tune a car yourself) or the asinine internet rumor that the VQ series of motors has "weak internals" because a bunch of jokers with greddy kits try to up the boost without compensating tuning-wise? No one is say the motor is going to last for 200,000 miles, they are saying your assertion that it is a "ticking time bomb" is based on not a single fact. How about you leave the speculation out of this and let the people who actually have turbo VQs do the talking? Mmmmkay?
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Dude, you're a clown shoe. You obviously haven't tuned a car yourself as per your reliance on Dr. Charles, and your belief that A/F ratio is the only consideration that goes into tuning.
"acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine."
Where are you gathering this information from? Get your facts right.
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
On what are you basing your assumption that the car won't last for a good while on stock internals? Your vast automotive knowledge (knowledge that lacks the ability to tune a car yourself) or the asinine internet rumor that the VQ series of motors has "weak internals" because a bunch of jokers with greddy kits try to up the boost without compensating tuning-wise? No one is say the motor is going to last for 200,000 miles, they are saying your assertion that it is a "ticking time bomb" is based on not a single fact. How about you leave the speculation out of this and let the people who actually have turbo VQs do the talking? Mmmmkay?
Good job to the G35 hope you can achieve a faster time
Lets get back on topic now before they lock this thread up.
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Originally Posted by Wicked4u2c
Dude, are you ignorant too? Man, people need to go back to school seriously. No wonder America is so F*cked up because people can't even understand a simple sentence. Here, let me explain it to you since you obviously didn't understand either, or else you wouldn't have posted that comment. Read my very first post, I never said this guy is not running a stock motor. GO READ IT! This is what I said.
"I doubt those are stock internals, anybody can have a fully built motor and say its stock, their is no way to prove it. But if it does have "stock internals" I can gurantee it wont last long."
Here, let me explain it to you since you obviously didn't understand either, or else you wouldn't have posted that comment. Read my very first post, I never said this guy is not running a stock motor. GO READ IT! This is what I said. "I doubt those are stock internals, anybody can have a fully built motor and say its stock, their is no way to prove it. But if it does have "stock internals" I can gurantee it wont last long."
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Stop the bickering!
I Doubt some people will ever grow up on here! THis is for sharing information. If you want to argue like kids and call each other names, stand toe to toe and move in a circle like in Elementary school. Go do that somewhere else. THis is not the place! Discussing is fine but enough with the personal attacks guys, c'mon!
Originally Posted by Wicked4u2c
blah blah blah
You are a joke, it's not possible to reason with you because you CONSTANTLY contradict yourself. I'm not wasting any more of my time with you.
Originally Posted by Wicked4u2c
Where did I say that A/F is the only consideration that goes into tuning? I said
"acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine."
Where are you gathering this information from? Get your facts right.
"acheving an optimum A/F ratio. wether it be to get better gas milage, power etc... Its comes down to 1 thing A/F. Yes, their is tweaking cam gears, adjust fuel pressure, messing with the timing etc... But what does it all come down too, getting your A/F to be at its best performance and have it be reliable so you don't blow up your engine."
Where are you gathering this information from? Get your facts right.
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Very good run... even if it has a built motor it is a badass car that is very quick for what it is... there are guys who are running low 13s on a stock motor with simple bolt-on's. thats about 250-300 rwhp.. FI guys are pushin about 400-460 safely on their vq motors with stock internals. the problem is just tuning these damn cars especially running a motor with stock internals. there are guys out there running procharger setups hiting mid 12s kicking out 360-380 wrhp.... plus he is prolly a good driver so who knows..
Originally Posted by 10secapsttz
The Word "DOUBT" has a negative meaning and implies that you do not believe he has stock internals.You contradict yourself so much it is not funny..You say "DOUBT" has a nuetral meaning , yet you follow the word "DOUBT" with "anybody can have a fully built motor and say its stock, their is no way to prove it" Which would imply that you do not believe he has stock internals, therefore casting "DOUBT" to his claims.Please go back to school before you flame me on the definition of the word "DOUBT" which by the way is not a nuetral word, it means "I don't think so" in laymens terms. Stop being so rude..
Wicked4u2c contradicts himself to much.
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