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Old 12-04-2010, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeside
Thats not a quality tune! Cobb sucks! Its a Cobb job.........

No HFC's or Test pipes?! Thats your biggest issue! Should have spent the $350-500 bucks for those.
I can appreciate that Cobb is not #1 in Z tuning, but it was a custom tune by Tim Bailey himself. Look him up - not a crappy tune.

ART pipes = test pipes.
Old 12-04-2010, 07:22 PM
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DE>HR.....RUNS for cover
Old 12-04-2010, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
i'd expect 30 whp from having the art pipes and xyz pipe with that catback you mentioned above, all without a tune... with tune i'd expect another 10 whp, so total 40whp for all bolt ons...

am i just being way too hopeful? i only have the art pipes with stock catback on my hr, and i definitely felt the gain...
kind of what I was expecting....lol
Old 12-04-2010, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
i'd expect 30 whp from having the art pipes and xyz pipe with that catback you mentioned above, all without a tune... with tune i'd expect another 10 whp, so total 40whp for all bolt ons...

am i just being way too hopeful? i only have the art pipes with stock catback on my hr, and i definitely felt the gain...
ill buy your ART pipes right now then
Old 12-04-2010, 07:33 PM
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You saved about 50lbs with all the bolt ons.
Old 12-04-2010, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shawz1102
i'd expect 30 whp from having the art pipes and xyz pipe with that catback you mentioned above, all without a tune... with tune i'd expect another 10 whp, so total 40whp for all bolt ons...

am i just being way too hopeful? i only have the art pipes with stock catback on my hr, and i definitely felt the gain...
Figure 240 horsepower before. Plus 40 horsepower gives you 280 horsepower. That is a 16.6 percent increase. That may not be possible.
Old 12-04-2010, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
DE>HR.....RUNS for cover
Troublemaker.

Old 12-04-2010, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by biggersNISMO
This sir, i wish I could have.

I don't think its possible, on an HR for that price.

But if someone can prove me wrong, please do so.
Dosnt matter if its HR or DE. I just put in Wisecos($600), eagles($400) and kept HR head bolts and gasket. Balancing crank and little machine shop stuff (~500ish).
Old 12-04-2010, 08:44 PM
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With all my Mods I am in the 296-299 RWHP range! Now if you pony up the extra cash and do 4.08 gears you will really wake the beast.

I only went the bolt on route cause I needed something to keep myself busy and provide some gains till my warranty runs out. I'm pretty happy with my gains the way the car sits now! Its a night and day differance compaired to stock.

Edit: What elevation are you at? What fuel are you using? Ethanol content is on the rise. If you can find a station that sells ethanol free gas use it....

Zim

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Old 12-04-2010, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
Dosnt matter if its HR or DE. I just put in Wisecos($600), eagles($400) and kept HR head bolts and gasket. Balancing crank and little machine shop stuff (~500ish).
Are you boosted or N/A? I know its an age old Z topic but its a proven fact that DE's are more tuner friendly than HR's. HR's are a phenomenal engine and I wont disagree but its not tuner friendly.
Old 12-04-2010, 09:47 PM
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Just lookat it this way wasn't a total waste your new exhaust will flow better for FI
Old 12-04-2010, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lakeside
With all my Mods I am in the 296-299 RWHP range! Now if you pony up the extra cash and do 4.08 gears you will really wake the beast.

I only went the bolt on route cause I needed something to keep myself busy and provide some gains till my warranty runs out. I'm pretty happy with my gains the way the car sits now! Its a night and day differance compaired to stock.

Edit: What elevation are you at? What fuel are you using? Ethanol content is on the rise. If you can find a station that sells ethanol free gas use it....

Zim
Zim,

Elevation is only a couple hundred feet. Unfortunately we cannot compare dyno #'s as we used different dynos. I do know Cobb/Surgeline's dyno reads low. I am disappointed with the minimal gains between the custom tune and my baseline. Did you baseline your Nismo?
Old 12-04-2010, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
Are you boosted or N/A? I know its an age old Z topic but its a proven fact that DE's are more tuner friendly than HR's. HR's are a phenomenal engine and I wont disagree but its not tuner friendly.
Yeah in a previous post I mentioned having rear mount turbo.
Old 12-04-2010, 11:48 PM
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with a cobb ap, injen dual intakes, AAM testpipes and greddy dual TiC exhaust i made 298 at the wheel with my HR NA
Old 12-05-2010, 01:02 AM
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Yes, but what did you baseline? You're in the same boat if the dyno you were on baselined you at like 290hp.

Edit - oh, and you were on a dynojet, so naturally the numbers are going to be higher

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Old 12-05-2010, 01:09 AM
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WOW...
Old 12-05-2010, 02:05 AM
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This thread just woke me up.

I got the cams installed couple of months back during my rebuild, now planning to get a set of headers + Ypipe to complete my bolt-ons but...

I think I'm gonna stop modding "N/A" now and focus more on more important mods like handling / cooling (for trackdays), before it's really too late. FI ftw.

Thanks for sharing Nismo!
Old 12-05-2010, 02:20 AM
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Tomei headers, test pipes and cams ( 264 in and out ), HKS exhaust, Injen CAI and tune got me 46 whp. It ain't easy on the HR, but the 4.08 final drive woke it up.
Old 12-05-2010, 04:42 AM
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boo hoo hoo
dude we all live and learn. Thats quite a lesson lol
Old 12-05-2010, 07:40 AM
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No wonder I don't need to run my Z over 3000rpm to get all the performance I want.


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