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Old 11-20-2002, 04:44 PM
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Default Installed wider tires on stock rims

I just got new tires installed. I thought the stock tires on the Z didn't have quite the right look to them. It looked too much like a family car. I didn't want to spend a ton of money, so I kept the stock wheels. I also won't have this car in rain or snow, so a stickier tire was the way to go.

I went with Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s. 245/45/17 in front and 255/45/17 in back. The tires fit great on the stock 8" and 7.5" wheels. The extra 20mm (over the stock 225s and 235s) looks great on the car. No rubbing front or back, and no sidewall buldge. I have attached a before and after pic, although the pics aren't very good. I will take more this weekend.

Total cost was less than $500 including install. I haven't gotten on it yet to see how well they hook up. I do notice they follow tracks in the road a bit, which I didn't notice before. The ride of the car isn't any harsher or cushier than before.
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Old 11-20-2002, 04:45 PM
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Here is the stock pic
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:03 PM
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That is good, I was thinking about doing the same thing and also with the Kuhmo's they are a great deal.
Old 11-20-2002, 06:13 PM
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Hey! If you want sticky tires like that try the kumho's in the MX version they have a tread wear of 220 instead of the 712 with a tread wear of 280, and they are a much larger tread block with less void area. I have tried the 712's on my turbo esprit and they were too hard to generate heat in them so they slid around corners kinda not too nice( not good feedback on the sliding edge of control) If anyone has tried the MX's please post and tell how they stick.
Old 11-21-2002, 06:13 PM
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hey what did u do with your old tires i'll buy them
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Old 11-25-2002, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Installed wider tires on stock rims

Originally posted by PistolPete
......... I have attached a before and after pic, although the pics aren't very good. I will take more this weekend. .....
Any more pics? From side?
Old 11-25-2002, 06:37 PM
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Default I had the Kumhos on my 93 RZ-7 and...

hated them. They had very little bite.

I bought them because of reccomendations and price. I was very dissapointed. They did, however, do fairly well in the rain.

I would like to hear what you think of them on the Z.

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Old 11-26-2002, 04:05 AM
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Default Re: I had the Kumhos on my 93 RZ-7 and...

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hated them. They had very little bite.

I bought them because of reccomendations and price. I was very dissapointed. They did, however, do fairly well in the rain.

I would like to hear what you think of them on the Z.

Eric
Did you have these same ones? The Ecstas were recommended by people at the AutoX this weekend, I am interested because I am looking for stickiest street tire, within reason regarding price of course.
Old 11-26-2002, 06:32 AM
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Kumho has several different Ecsta (711, 712, and MX) the ones you want I think are the MX's. I've had the 712's and they are too hard, I've seen the MX's at an autox and they look much softer. Does anyone have any personal Experience with the MX's?
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They seem to have better grip than the stock tires when they are warm. The RE40s would spin all the way through first if I got frisky with the gas pedal. The 712s hook up much better when they are warm. They are not as sticky when cold. They might be equal with the RE40s, but perform better because of the extra footprint. I am very happy with them for the price. (100 bucks from tirerack) The 255 looks perfect in back and the tread pattern looks good.

I haven't had the opportunity to see how they do in turns yet, I was pretty happy with the RE40s in that aspect. While I had them on, I never found the limits of the car in a turn. I'll have to see how the 712s do next time we get a warm day.

I almost sprung for the MXs or Yoko A520Ls. If anyone has run the MXs I would like hearing from them.
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Default More pics of the setup

I finally got a couple more pics of the 712s on my stock wheels. Here are two pics of the front:
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Second pic
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Default The Kumhos are Great

I got some Kuhmos on my Chrome Silver Touring...they hug the road very well...

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Default Mine are the Kumho Ecstas

Oops, I forgot to say that Mine are the Kumho Ecstas.

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>I went with Kumho Ecsta Supra 712s. 245/45/17 in front and >255/45/17 in back. The tires fit great on the stock 8" and 7.5"
> wheels.

So you fitted the 17x7.5 with 245's and 17x8 with 255's? Man you are brave to be the first to try them.. It looks great btw. I wonder what we can fit on stock 18's now.

18x8 = 235/40/18 front?
18x8 = 255/40/18 rear?
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I mounted Firehawks sz50's 245/45/17 on the front and 275/40/17 on the rears. I questioned Discount tire about the width of using 275's on 8" rims and they responded that Chevy's Camero SS uses the same width on 17". So far no problems on/off exit ramps at high speeds am waiting for spring to try out at Putnam Park.
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Default Re: wider yet

Originally posted by Clyde
I mounted Firehawks sz50's 245/45/17 on the front and 275/40/17 on the rears. I questioned Discount tire about the width of using 275's on 8" rims and they responded that Chevy's Camero SS uses the same width on 17". So far no problems on/off exit ramps at high speeds am waiting for spring to try out at Putnam Park.
are you serious? 275 on 8" width? got some pics?
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Originally posted by Apexi350z

So you fitted the 17x7.5 with 245's and 17x8 with 255's? Man you are brave to be the first to try them.. It looks great btw. I wonder what we can fit on stock 18's now.

if you go to the tire manuf. website, they list a range of rim widths for a given tire size. this tire size is in the safe range. you can go out of the range, but you may have leakage/handling problems
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just curious our stock ratio is 50 and you are putting 45 series on them.. wouldn't that create greater wheel gap?


275 on 8 inch?.. this I got to see.


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