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Old 06-10-2006, 10:16 PM
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Default Toyos T1R Vs. BFGoodrich GForce KDW 2

Which do you think is better and why? Plus, how many miles are these tires good for?
Old 06-10-2006, 10:31 PM
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i prefer Toyo's smoother cushier ride quality.
KDW is excellent dry traction tires.
Old 06-11-2006, 04:58 AM
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I've never tried the BFGoodrich's, but I do have the Toyo T1R's. It's been over 10K miles and there are no signs of feathering at all on the front.

Great tires.
Old 06-11-2006, 09:45 AM
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If you are going to get the BFG and want ultimate dry traction, go for the KD, not the KDW. KDW have a larger void percentage on the tread to help with wet traction.
Old 06-11-2006, 02:38 PM
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the bfg's are a better overall tire..
Old 06-11-2006, 03:56 PM
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I run both of those tires right now. KDW is better in the dry AND wet. Quite a bit louder than the Toyos though...and a bit more expensive
Old 06-11-2006, 08:16 PM
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Recommendations from Consumer Reports.
Old 06-11-2006, 08:20 PM
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I love it when people post stuff like this above ^, It is really helpful.
Old 06-11-2006, 08:50 PM
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Great article, thanks. Going for the Toyos!!
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Thats a nice graph, I was actually debating between the two. Was. I think Ill go with Toyos for next summer. Need to get rid of the crappy Avons!
Old 06-11-2006, 10:36 PM
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I remember seeing that a while back... Saw this at Tirerack...

Tire survey results (Ultra High Performance Summer Tires)
Old 06-11-2006, 11:25 PM
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what about the BFG kdw v2? I hear they are better in performance
Old 06-12-2006, 07:04 PM
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consumer reports were for the first version of the kdw, the kdw-2's are much improved. from what ive read the soft sidewall on the toyos suck.
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Originally Posted by uwaeve
If you are going to get the BFG and want ultimate dry traction, go for the KD, not the KDW. KDW have a larger void percentage on the tread to help with wet traction.
Was thinking the same thing. (Huh, a dry tire vs a all-season )
Old 06-13-2006, 06:03 AM
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I had the T1-r's on my previous 300zx TT and they were a great tire. I have the KDW-2 on the 350 and i like them better they run a bit wider than the t1-rs also. My M3 runs on Eagle F1's and they are just as good as the KDW's.
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Originally Posted by Endless Shock
I remember seeing that a while back... Saw this at Tirerack...

Tire survey results (Ultra High Performance Summer Tires)
Thanks. TireRack surveys are interesting because they cover such a wide variety of vehicle owners.
Old 06-15-2006, 10:48 AM
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Anyone have pictures of the tires on some 19's?
Old 06-15-2006, 11:19 AM
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for those in socal- just got a decent price on t1r's this morning;

245/40/18 $163 installed, Ron's wholesale Tires in Orange.
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The T1R are a lot quieter ride than the KDW2, but the they sidewalls flex a LOT more in hard cornering. I switched from the KDW last week since my new rims came with the Toyos, and taking the S curve I hit everyday at 50-55 with the KDW's (rock solid) was very loose at the same speed with the T1's.
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KDW-2's have a nice, stiff sidewall. They look bigger as a result though. I like 'em so far. Couple of auto-x's and a track day and they've held up quite well.


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