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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Default T1-R vs. FK-451 vs. K104

What tire would you go with out of these three - the Toyo T1-R, Falken FK-451, or Hankook Ventus K104?

Best prices I've found so far are $800 for Toyo's, $777 for Falken's, $625 for Hankooks.

I'm also welcome to other ideas in this price range. Thanks!
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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T1R's, I never liked the 451's.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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I'd go with 451's for the stretch that I want, but to my knowledge Falken does not mass produce those anymore since they are pushing the 452's now
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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What's the difference between the 451 and 452?
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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www.fk452.com

Just picked up a set for my new 20s for $700 on ebay... not too shabby.

I've been reading reviews all day.. many have positive things to say and there are some negative... for the deal, may be worth a chance.
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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451
Treadwear: 280
Traction: AA
Temp: A
Speed Rating: Y

452
Treadwear: 300
Traction: AA
Temp: A
Speed Rating: Y

So.. with those numbers not a whole hell of a lot since the 451s supposedly had top of the line ratings. But Falken claims better wet/dry handling, wearing (or lack of), and less noise...
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Old Nov 13, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Supposedly the 452's are a better tire than the 451's and also outperform the FT-615's out of the box. However the 615's will provide a better handling prowess if beat on over a longer duration since it is more of a competition tire.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I've got 452s on the way.. I'll let you know what I think. Hopefully I'll have the car dropped and rims/tires on by the weekend.
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 08:17 PM
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Having driven both FK452s and RT615s I assure you the 615s have a LOT more grip and outperform the 452s in every way that I could notice. Treadwear sucks on the 615s though. For a decent cheap set of street tires I went with Nitto Neogen ZRs. They are fairly comfortable ride wise and although I haven't tried to push them to extemes they seem to do well in the handling department so far. I have a set of track wheels if I need them anyways. Consequently the track wheels just had a set of 615s installed to replace some badly worn RA-1s
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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i'm pretty sure the 615's dont even come in 19 =(
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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I would pick the Falkens, i like mine... but they are not near as sticky as the stock bridgestones.
It does rain alot in atlanta and the fk451's do awesome in the rain and wear very good.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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T1-R FTW!! They grip rather well compared to the BFG kdw2's and they are reasonably priced.
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