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Old 01-17-2007, 04:52 AM
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So im kinda new to this staggered wheel set up thing. I just purchased some SSR gt2-h's (19x9 in the front and 19x10.5 in the back). I also have the eibach pro kit which is suppose to drop the car 1" all around. knowing this i was wondering what size tires i need specifically for the rears. This isnt my main question though. This puzzel became a lot more interesting or complicated when i started reading post were people purposely stretch there tires sizes. Some say its to create a bigger contact patch from the rubber to the ground! some say its dangerous. i dont know what to believe. Ive searched and every one has there opinion... dont know which to believe????

To stretch or not to stretch that is the question?

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the only plusses i can see are that it looks cool and may prevent the need to roll your fenders...other than that it seems like you'd have less of a contact patch with the road and it seems like a blowout would be more likely...not sure if i'd do it on a daily driver
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The trend here is sound and looks.

What exhaust will make my 350Z sound like a Ferrari?

I want test pipes, but I am so afraid of rasp.

What wheels look best? 17 inch forged or 20 inch cast iron?

What tires will look hot? 235 or 275mm.


The days when this was a performance forum are long gone. Go for the current fashion. Go for the bling.

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Stretching a tire on the wheel that is too wide is not only dangerous, it doesn't look good. When you stretch or overhang your tires, you are not allowing the tire bead to seat properly and the sidewall do not have proper support. Putting the wrong size tire on a wheel is the dumbest thing you can do. You'll actually hurt your performance with the wrong size tire.
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Originally Posted by davidv
The trend here is sound and looks.

What exhaust will make my 350Z sound like a Ferrari?

I want test pipes, but I am so afraid of rasp.

What wheels look best? 17 inch forged or 20 inch cast iron?

What tires will look hot? 235 or 275mm.


The days when this was a performance forum are long gone. Go for the current fashion. Go for the bling.

im definitly not a bling type of guy!.. though i did get 19"s for the look... but they are forged 19's that wieght 21lbs each.. that gotta give me some performance points right?...lol.. so what im gathering here is its not good to stretch. so for the 10.5's i should go with a 275/35? or is that to big?

keep in mind i have the eibach pro kit
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Originally Posted by SHIFT_KNOWLEDGE
im definitly not a bling type of guy!.. though i did get 19"s for the look... but they are forged 19's that wieght 21lbs each.. that gotta give me some performance points right?...lol.. so what im gathering here is its not good to stretch. so for the 10.5's i should go with a 275/35? or is that to big?

keep in mind i have the eibach pro kit
275/35/19 is the minimum on a 10.5 rim. Look at your tire's manufacture website for the correct application. 285/35/19s are the better fit. Tires sit flush against the wheels. Make sure your offset will allow the application also.
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A good rule of thumb is to decide the size tire you want to run first, then choose the wheel width according to the tire manufacturer's recommended wheel width range. That will keep you safe.

Going wider on the wheel in relationship to the tire will deliver sharper turn-in response by pre-loading or stiffening the sidewall at the sacrifice of ride quality. Generally widens the contact patch for that size tire. Better suited for road racing and drifting.

Going wider on the tire in relationship to the wheel will dull the steering response, but give you a more compliant ride. Generally lengthens the contact patch for that size tire which is better suited for max. acceleration traction needed in drag-racing or high-horsepower street applications.
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Originally Posted by SHIFT_KNOWLEDGE
im definitly not a bling type of guy!.. though i did get 19"s for the look... but they are forged 19's that wieght 21lbs each.. that gotta give me some performance points right?...lol.. so what im gathering here is its not good to stretch. so for the 10.5's i should go with a 275/35? or is that to big?

keep in mind i have the eibach pro kit
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Originally Posted by davidv
You are the man.
no wonder you have so many post!

thanks for the help people!
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Sign-up for Philadelphia SCCA autocross. It’s a good way to learn about tire size, traction and riding on the sidewalls.

http://www.phillyscca.com/
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thats a great idea!!!!!!!!!!.. i was looking to do this, this summer.. thanks for the link!
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I have a 285/35 on a 19X10.5" I had to roll my fenders due to the +22 offset but its worth it, I think it looks just right. I dislike the 275 look on a 10.5" wide wheel. You choice though...

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Originally Posted by SHIFT_KNOWLEDGE
im definitly not a bling type of guy!.. though i did get 19"s for the look... but they are forged 19's that wieght 21lbs each.. that gotta give me some performance points right?...lol.. so what im gathering here is its not good to stretch. so for the 10.5's i should go with a 275/35? or is that to big?

keep in mind i have the eibach pro kit

What wheels?
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Originally Posted by kwiker
What wheels?
In his first post, second sentence he wrote...

Originally Posted by SHIFT_KNOWLEDGE
I just purchased some SSR gt2-h's
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ssr gt2-h
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I run steched tires all the way around, I like the way they look. I've had them on for over 1000 miles and no issues. Here are the specs:
20x10 +24 offset 245/35/20 rear Nitto 555
20x8.5 +24 offset 225/35/20 front Nitto 555

also on tanabe springs.

I ordered some 25mm spacers (for a total of -1 offset) for the rear to bring the tire out to the fender. I will have to roll them. Once I get the spacers on I will post some pics, the stance will be sick!
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Originally Posted by davidv
The trend here is sound and looks.

What exhaust will make my 350Z sound like a Ferrari?

I want test pipes, but I am so afraid of rasp.

What wheels look best? 17 inch forged or 20 inch cast iron?

What tires will look hot? 235 or 275mm.


The days when this was a performance forum are long gone. Go for the current fashion. Go for the bling.
You are bitter for a post *****.

275-285 will be fine on 10.5.
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Originally Posted by rvshehata
I run steched tires all the way around, I like the way they look. I've had them on for over 1000 miles and no issues. Here are the specs:
20x10 +24 offset 245/35/20 rear Nitto 555
20x8.5 +24 offset 225/35/20 front Nitto 555

also on tanabe springs.

I ordered some 25mm spacers (for a total of -1 offset) for the rear to bring the tire out to the fender. I will have to roll them. Once I get the spacers on I will post some pics, the stance will be sick!

man i had 245's on my 8" wheel in the front...i think that a 245 on a 10" wheel is the most ridiculous looking thing i have ever seen...not only does it not look good but the rim is the first thing u are going to smash up if u get too close to something...of course thats just my opinion so dont take it personal.
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definitely should go 285 on 10.5"
Old 01-18-2007, 08:25 AM
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WTF!? I don't want to sound mean but this is retarded . . . it's not quite ricey but definitely gheytto. That look does not belong on a sports car like our Zs.
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