What kind of tires should I buy
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Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
Why do some of you guys say Toyo's are not as good as the other two I mentioned above? Less grip? Less milage? Less???
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Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
i'm curious about the mixing tires. what is bad about mixing tires. i've been talking to people about it and they don't have any answers. is there a reason why you shouldn't mix?? do they wear more? or is it just that you are driving with two different brands.
Different tread patterns in the front and back can make the car act funny when you're really pushing it. On a different car, I had PS2s up front and goodyear F1 GSD3s in the back which caused the traction control to act up. As long as I made sure to turn it off, then things were fine.
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Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
well put. i agree. Personally, I was digging the noise, but everyone who was riding with me kept complaining and saying that they thought it was unusually loud. My only complaint with the noise is that it drowns out my stereo sometimes. I feel like the sound system isn't bad, but the noise is taking out some of my mid frequencies....I'm prolly just being too picky.![](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/icon38.gif)
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Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
i'm curious about the mixing tires. what is bad about mixing tires. i've been talking to people about it and they don't have any answers. is there a reason why you shouldn't mix?? do they wear more? or is it just that you are driving with two different brands.
Here is an example. I mounted 245/45-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the rear while running 225/45-18 OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE040's. The Eagle's relatively soft sidewalls teamed with the Bridgestone's "wooden" stiff side walls is not a good combination. The rear feels a little "wiggly" running this combination. Mounting 245/40-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the front fixes this handling problem since the front and rear have the same sidewall rigidity.
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As long as both tires have the same rating, for example, both tires are "max performance" tires, than you should be okay.
The new tires should be placed in the rear though. If the new tires are mounted in the front, then the vehicle can be prone to oversteering.
The new tires should be placed in the rear though. If the new tires are mounted in the front, then the vehicle can be prone to oversteering.
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Originally Posted by bdavids1
I just got some Goodyear F1 GSD3s 255/40ZR18 and 275/40ZR18, and they are sweet! If I wear these out too quickly, I'll probably go with Toyo T1Rs to save money, but if they last me 2 years or more, I'll probably buy them (or the equivalent) again.
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I have stock 18" wheels so I am running Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 sized 245/40-18 front and 245/45-18 rear. The Eagle has a relatively soft sidewall flex. I have a 2003 Performance (so I also have VDC), and must mount tires close to the OEM overall diameter. There is no 225/45-18 size in the Eagle line. This is totally a guess, but I believe the reason Goodyear doesn't offer the Eagle in a 225/45-18 is this size would be too "wiggly" with the softer sidewall.
Actually, the 245/40-18 front with 245/45-18 rear with the Goodyear Eagle's provides a great staggered (width-wise) combination. There is less under-steer (and more like neutral-steer) with this arrangement.
I really like the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3:
1) The relatively softer sidewall flex provides a softer (i.e., more comfortable) ride.
2) This tire sticks like glue to a dry roadway.
3) The Eagle grips very well on wet roads and in the rain.
4) The tire is very quiet. I hear my CE and the Z's great exhaust sound.
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Originally Posted by The Brickyard Rat
Why do some of you guys say Toyo's are not as good as the other two I mentioned above? Less grip? Less milage? Less???
I also would like to hear from Forum members with direct experience with this tire.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
I've always heard that these tires have a lot of road noise, but did it drown out the stereo from the beginning or just after you put a lot of miles on the tires?
I just bought the car about a month and a half ago. The car is an '04 with 30,000 miles on it. I'm just tryin to make a good choice. The road noise is noticeable really only on the interior. If I open the windows, I can still hear that nice Z exhaust just fine....I guess my problem could just be that the radio sucks, but it's the Bose soundsystem and I thought it was supposed to be great.
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Originally Posted by Spike100
Mixing tires front to rear is OK as long as you mount tires having closely matched characteristics (tread, composition, sidewall flex, etc.).
Here is an example. I mounted 245/45-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the rear while running 225/45-18 OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE040's. The Eagle's relatively soft sidewalls teamed with the Bridgestone's "wooden" stiff side walls is not a good combination. The rear feels a little "wiggly" running this combination. Mounting 245/40-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the front fixes this handling problem since the front and rear have the same sidewall rigidity.
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Here is an example. I mounted 245/45-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the rear while running 225/45-18 OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE040's. The Eagle's relatively soft sidewalls teamed with the Bridgestone's "wooden" stiff side walls is not a good combination. The rear feels a little "wiggly" running this combination. Mounting 245/40-18 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's on the front fixes this handling problem since the front and rear have the same sidewall rigidity.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
Like Push mentioned, they have a soft sidewall which makes for a lazy turn-in response along with an overall squirmy feeling when driving.
That's disappointing to hear because I have been seriously considering these tires because they've been talked up so much here for their price and performance. Now I will reconsider. What's your recommendation? Are you a fan of the BFG's?
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I've tried several different tires over the years on various applications and the Toyos IMO breaks down like this:
1) Decent dry traction but not the best.
2) Above average wet weather traction.
3) Tread life is very good but this is probably due to the harder compound. That is why the traction suffers.
4) Very quiet. Not a lot of road noise.
5) Less than average laterial grip and movement. Sub par confidence in sidewalls. Very soft compared to other high performance tires in it's price range and class
6) Overall a very good deal for the price if you are looking for the tuner low profile application but do need the performance.
I really like the BFGs in the performance area. They are better than the Comp T/A ZR line that it replaced. In terms of comfort, noise, and tread wear there are better tires out there.
When selecting tires, you need to ask yourself what is it you are looking for and how the tires will achieve those things the way you drive or use your car for.
1) Decent dry traction but not the best.
2) Above average wet weather traction.
3) Tread life is very good but this is probably due to the harder compound. That is why the traction suffers.
4) Very quiet. Not a lot of road noise.
5) Less than average laterial grip and movement. Sub par confidence in sidewalls. Very soft compared to other high performance tires in it's price range and class
6) Overall a very good deal for the price if you are looking for the tuner low profile application but do need the performance.
Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
That's disappointing to hear because I have been seriously considering these tires because they've been talked up so much here for their price and performance. Now I will reconsider. What's your recommendation? Are you a fan of the BFG's?
When selecting tires, you need to ask yourself what is it you are looking for and how the tires will achieve those things the way you drive or use your car for.
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Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
That's disappointing to hear because I have been seriously considering these tires because they've been talked up so much here for their price and performance. Now I will reconsider. What's your recommendation? Are you a fan of the BFG's?
For my next set of tires, I want to try either the Yokohoma Advan Sports or the Bridgestone RE-01Rs.
What tire you get depends on your needs and driving style. I haven't had the chance to drive on BFGs, but if you're more interested in dry performance/grip, then they would be a good choice if you can deal with the noise. The other tires mentioned might have less dry grip than your current BFGs.
The PS2s and RE050A PPs are really good all around tires, with perhaps the goodyears getting the nod in the wet.
You might also want to consider the Falken 615s.
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
My last three sets of tires on different cars, were Michelin PS2s, Goodyear eagle F1 GSD3s and currently on the 350Z Bridgestone RE050A pole positions. They are all top notch tires, but I feel the RE050A PPs offer the same performance for a little less money so those would be my recommendation.
For my next set of tires, I want to try either the Yokohoma Advan Sports or the Bridgestone RE-01Rs.
What tire you get depends on your needs and driving style. I haven't had the chance to drive on BFGs, but if you're more interested in dry performance/grip, then they would be a good choice if you can deal with the noise. The other tires mentioned might have less dry grip than your current BFGs.
The PS2s and RE050A PPs are really good all around tires, with perhaps the goodyears getting the nod in the wet.
You might also want to consider the Falken 615s.
For my next set of tires, I want to try either the Yokohoma Advan Sports or the Bridgestone RE-01Rs.
What tire you get depends on your needs and driving style. I haven't had the chance to drive on BFGs, but if you're more interested in dry performance/grip, then they would be a good choice if you can deal with the noise. The other tires mentioned might have less dry grip than your current BFGs.
The PS2s and RE050A PPs are really good all around tires, with perhaps the goodyears getting the nod in the wet.
You might also want to consider the Falken 615s.
Sounds like some good advice. I am going to look into the RE050A PPs, which you described earlier as being your best recommendation. Hopefully tonight I don't have to work late like I've been doing every night for the past week so I can get to the tire place and get some quotes.
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i got 225/45/18 front and 275/40/18 rear....now the Z goes around corners like it's on rails.
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Originally Posted by fairladyz47597
Sounds like some good advice. I am going to look into the RE050A PPs, which you described earlier as being your best recommendation. Hopefully tonight I don't have to work late like I've been doing every night for the past week so I can get to the tire place and get some quotes.
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How's the understeer? Seems like it should get a lot worse with that much difference between f/r.
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Originally Posted by bdavids1
Check out prices online (tirerack.com, etc.) before you go. I was amazed at how much more some tire places charge even after factoring in the cost of mounting and balancing tires purchased online.
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