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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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For those who are wondering, you can get stiff setups through stance, of course they will advise u otherwise but just let them know what u are wanting
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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What's your camber at here?
Did you really re-quote the whole post when its like a couple posts up?
C'mon man SMH.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Amoney47
Did you really re-quote the whole post when its like a couple posts up?
C'mon man SMH.
The sexyness of the car deserved it good sir.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zlatan
The sexyness of the car deserved it good sir.
lol okay ill give you that
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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lol! thnks guyz....should have them on by wed or thursday!
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 350DAN
^^^when i got my alignment it was at -3, but to be honest it looks like its moved itself from being driven for a while now. i'd say it is at -4 or -5 but i have to go to a shop and find out exactly. i'll get a better shot later today, the edge of the tire is off the ground
Why/how would it "move itself"? It is at least -5. I copied/pasted your picture into art and drew rough lines to estimate and got 8 degrees. I don't believe it's -8, but it's well over -4 or -5.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by evil350zdriver
lol! thnks guyz....should have them on by wed or thursday!
what tires are you going with??
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Why/how would it "move itself"? It is at least -5. I copied/pasted your picture into art and drew rough lines to estimate and got 8 degrees. I don't believe it's -8, but it's well over -4 or -5.
this worries me, i don't know exactly how the camber became so negative cuz i know it was -3 after i got the fenders pulled, now it just looks more angled......oh, well when i got my alignment i had the old tires that had camber wear on the inside, and i recently had the new tires installed so now that would make more sense as to why the angle is different...so now i guess its -4 or -5....damn
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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Dan you running stock camber?
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by scotts300
Why/how would it "move itself"? It is at least -5. I copied/pasted your picture into art and drew rough lines to estimate and got 8 degrees. I don't believe it's -8, but it's well over -4 or -5.
Agree.....that camber is atleast -5. It looks perhaps more than that. If your camber has moved from -3 to -6ish.....you have an issue.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 350z_Boi
Dan you running stock camber?
no sir i have the eibach camber kit along with the oem spring bucket set up for the coilovers
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Agree.....that camber is atleast -5. It looks perhaps more than that. If your camber has moved from -3 to -6ish.....you have an issue.
yea i think that more negative camber occurred due to my new tires
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Tires won't affect camber.......are you sure the eibach camber arms aren't defective or installed incorrectly?
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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^^ camber are prone to slipping reguardless. My stock camber slipped on the right side and it was way off compared to the drivers side. That's why they make the lock out kit bolts to prevent slippage from your camber or your toe.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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I get my car aligned 3 times a year as it sees 25-30 track/autocross events a year....it is never off more than .2-.3 in camber....toe can be a bit more out from time to time. The lockout bolts are for toe....not camber.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
I get my car aligned 3 times a year as it sees 25-30 track/autocross events a year....it is never off more than .2-.3 in camber....toe can be a bit more out from time to time. The lockout bolts are for toe....not camber.
The lockout bolts can be for camber as well if you've got camber arms.

It's possible that if he doesn't have lockout bolts, and the eccentric washers and bolts weren't tightened well that they've slipped significantly.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by al@phatrides
The lockout bolts can be for camber as well if you've got camber arms.

It's possible that if he doesn't have lockout bolts, and the eccentric washers and bolts weren't tightened well that they've slipped significantly.
I forgot so many run true coil-over here.....If those bolts came loose as low (thus force) as he is the bolt would likely come off or shear completely. Thing is though......it's unlikely both sides would come loose so uniformly.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
I forgot so many run true coil-over here.....If those bolts came loose as low (thus force) as he is the bolt would likely come off or shear completely. Thing is though......it's unlikely both sides would come loose so uniformly.
Absolutely.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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^^^agreed

i also noticed my driver side toe is angled at -1 and the driver side is at 0
and i do not have the lock in bolts extra to help increase positive camber, i don't think it's needed at this point since my fenders are pulled the way they are
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 350DAN
^^^agreed

i also noticed my driver side toe is angled at -1 and the driver side is at 0
and i do not have the lock in bolts extra to help increase positive camber, i don't think it's needed at this point since my fenders are pulled the way they are
What do you mean by -1? An inch? A mm? You must have a stellar eye. I'd recommend taking the car to a reputable alignment shop and having it given a once over. Sounds like you got a very poor alignment at the last place. I know for a fact I would not let some one leave with the rear tires looking like that, but it's the trend down there. I hate, and hesitate, to bring this up in here, but having that extra load (tons of camber) on an inside sidewall that is already had its integrity distorted cannot be good. That said....if you can get the camber back in check (-3?) you would be much better off, but it wouldn't look as cool to some.
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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you wanna come down here and pay for my alignment?
i know what needs to be done i don't need someone else telling me otherwise.
i have my wheels cambered so i can have clearance under my pulled fenders so i can ride even lower. it's still a work in progress and i have bills to pay so it won't be fixed the way you're expecting it to for a while
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
What do you mean by -1? An inch? A mm? You must have a stellar eye. I'd recommend taking the car to a reputable alignment shop and having it given a once over. Sounds like you got a very poor alignment at the last place. I know for a fact I would not let some one leave with the rear tires looking like that, but it's the trend down there. I hate, and hesitate, to bring this up in here, but having that extra load (tons of camber) on an inside sidewall that is already had its integrity distorted cannot be good. That said....if you can get the camber back in check (-3?) you would be much better off, but it wouldn't look as cool to some.

hey man, we still racing against each other at the track next year? pm me with info when u get it all set up btw i wont be NA in 2 weeks...
twins built coming...

btw i think Dan gets it with the camber. -3 will b perfect, im sure he is from -5 to -7, just how i was at -7.3 once and thought i was at -4 or so. im sure he ill fix it when the time comes though.

lets all cool off and let opinions be what the wanna be. we all tring to help each other here thats all. lol

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