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Alright so I just tried to take my wheels of to do some checking of the brakes. Tried a hand ratchet, had a feeling it wasn't gunna work but I tried anyway. Didn't work. Tried an Impact wrench. Not a budge. How are the wheels going to come off? I tried the same thing basically that the dealer will do. If I can't get them off, how would they? Better idea, how would I?
Thanks!
Thanks!
switch the direction of the impact gun (op) or put the car down on the ground before you start trying to loosen the lug nuts?
(dang, beat me by a few seconds
(dang, beat me by a few seconds
Last edited by surfcity40; Aug 13, 2008 at 03:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Turn the lug counter clockwise , repeat 4 times and the wheel will come off.
Repeat the above for each wheel.
Repeat the above for each wheel.
Over on driver I got the advice of they were over torqued when reinstalled last time (not by me!) and that they will probably break the studs when they do come off
So I'm going to bring it to Infiniti for my 37500 mile service. Was going to do it myself but why not let them do it, they need to check my brakes anyway.
This happened to my friend's civic when he first bought it. The wheels wouldn't come off for him to raise the suspension, well he took it to a shop and they just used WD-40 first and then breaker bar'd the thing loose didnt break any studs.
This is basically what you need http://www.ichibausa.com/ni12exstsh35.html but alightly longer than stock, or you could order the nismo ones , and you will need new lug nuts for each stud that broke off. You may be able to get the studs at your local parts store , just check with them before you need them , or order from your dealer.
Last edited by terrasmak; Aug 14, 2008 at 08:55 AM.
Ok dude 1 go to home dept, lowes, ace harware, sears and but a good impact gun for like 100$ that's where I got mine at and I use it everyday at work with no problems. 700lbs torque will rip those right off. spray wd-40 wait a little spray again the impact it off going counterclockwise.
I got mine at lowes and it's pretty strong...I forget the number exactly but it's over 500 I think. I Have a service appointment tomorrow to look at the brakes and my tranny noise so we'll see how they do it. When I get home just to be safe, I'll take them off and torque them to 85 like they should be. To make sure they aren't over torqued
I'm pretty sure you shouldn't use an impact gun for removing or installing lug nuts. Shops do it, but that doesn't mean it's right. The lug nuts should be torqued to the amount prescribed in the owner's manual, and theoretically it should not take much more than that amount of torque to get them off.
Your first instinct was correct, take it to the Dealer and let them deal with it. If they break a stud, it should be on them. Make sure you ask them specifically to torque to factory specs when they reinstall.
I think the reason that shops overtighten lug nuts is so that when the seating torque relieves itself a bit, the nuts will still be tight enough. If you torque them to spec, you really should check torque / re-torque them 25 or 30 miles of driving later because they can relieve themselves (i.e. come loose) a little bit. Shops don't want to be liable for your wheel falling of while driving, so they crank the hell out of them.
MY gf had a flat tire on her Civic, while it was sleeting out, and I was trying to swap it out for the spare but I couldn't break the lug nuts loose. I tried using a tire iron, a 1.5' long breaker bar, no dice. Felt like my chest muscles were getting torn from my bones trying to break the nuts loose. So 15 minutes later and covered in a sheet of ice, I still had a flat tire on the car, so now I'm a little sensitive to shops being careless.
Your first instinct was correct, take it to the Dealer and let them deal with it. If they break a stud, it should be on them. Make sure you ask them specifically to torque to factory specs when they reinstall.
I think the reason that shops overtighten lug nuts is so that when the seating torque relieves itself a bit, the nuts will still be tight enough. If you torque them to spec, you really should check torque / re-torque them 25 or 30 miles of driving later because they can relieve themselves (i.e. come loose) a little bit. Shops don't want to be liable for your wheel falling of while driving, so they crank the hell out of them.
MY gf had a flat tire on her Civic, while it was sleeting out, and I was trying to swap it out for the spare but I couldn't break the lug nuts loose. I tried using a tire iron, a 1.5' long breaker bar, no dice. Felt like my chest muscles were getting torn from my bones trying to break the nuts loose. So 15 minutes later and covered in a sheet of ice, I still had a flat tire on the car, so now I'm a little sensitive to shops being careless.
^ +1 i work at a shop and I put customer car's wheels on by hand then impact them slightly. Usually the impact guns have torque settings so mine go on at about 150 or so so save my ***. Most shops do it including dealers but some are just careless and do torque them like at 500 or more.
you can use impact gun with torque limiting sockets.... i have a 75 lb torque limiting socket - it gets them on there nice and tight...i then lower the car and make my rounds to each one with my torque wrench and usually to 95...
but im sad right
now as my goodyear impact just recently died and i cant find my receipt for warranty...boo...
-j
but im sad right
-j








